Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:52 pm

16 March
I went to London again today, but this time to visit a cat cafe :)

Russian
I spent the journey down reading TY Russian. I still haven't had an opportunity to make notes on chapter 12, so I didn't want to rush ahead and start chapter 13. Instead I revised some of the earlier chapters (I got as far as the end of chapter 6) and studied the grammar summary at the back of the book, which is quite useful.

Total time = 62 minutes. Streak = 75 days

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On the journey home, I finally finished reading 'Salon za plakanje'. It was a really good crime novel which kept me guessing right until the end. It was one of those where, once you know what the solution is, you can see that there were several critical clues dropped in along the way, which you missed completely :lol:

I forgot to say yesterday that I came across a word in my series which I really can't understand: 'regres'. The context is that the policemen in the village police station have gone on strike, because the bosses in Zagreb are trying save money by cutting their pay. There are two bits to it, the first being that they are no longer going to be paid overtime and the second being that they are no longer going to get 'regres'. They are very upset about it, particularly one of the characters who has just remortgaged his house. I have no idea what 'regres' means though, beyond the fact that it seems like it's some sort of extra pay they normally get in addition to their basic salaries :? Maybe some sort of bonus??
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Robierre » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:07 pm

Regres = the extra amount you get for your summer holidays. We also have the word "božićnica" for Christmas bonus.
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Daniel N. » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:05 pm

Radioclare wrote: I have no idea what 'regres' means though, beyond the fact that it seems like it's some sort of extra pay they normally get in addition to their basic salaries :? Maybe some sort of bonus??

You've already got the right answer; I'd just add that, like progres, it's one of these words stressed on different syllables in different parts of Croatia, and that stress usually doesn't move for these words (i.e. they behave like koncert).
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:23 pm

Thank you both :)

The characters in the series seem to be stressing it on the first syllable:

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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:23 pm

17 March
A more relaxing day at home today :)

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I finally got around to making notes on and doing the exercises in chapter 12 of TY Russian today. The exercises were actually quite useful. Later on I started chapter 13, which had some more detail about uses of the dative.

This morning I also watched a few more Russian videos on Youtube. I tried the latest Russian Progress video without subtitles; I'm still not sure whether it's better practice with or without :lol:

This evening I found a copy of the text and audio for Twilight and listened to the first chapter while reading along. I know the first chapter really well because I've used it a lot for Croatian practice, but even with that it was really tough for me to follow in Russian. I just did it as an experiment really and confirmed that my Russian is worse than my Croatian was when I started trying to read in Croatian. I haven't decided yet whether it's worth me trying to read a few pages intensively every now and again, or better just to wait until it's not so painful :lol:

Total time = 154 minutes. Streak = 76 days

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I started reading a translated novel: 'Tajna povijest Moskve'. It's rather....odd! People are disappearing by turning into birds, and there's a subset of people who are living in a parallel universe underground. All very surreal.
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Daniel N. » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:29 am

Radioclare wrote:Thank you both :)
The characters in the series seem to be stressing it on the first syllable:

The series is set in a fictional border town on the Bosnian border, which is maybe one reason why they use standard stress all along, because that's mostly the standard stress area. Another, obvious reason is that it's... standard. So they say ponašate you (y'all) behave and so on.
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:54 pm

18 March
Today was quite a productive day because I was working in Birmingham.

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I got through all my Memrise/Anki reviews on the train and then used the walk to work to make a start on lesson 20 of Pimsleur. I finished it at lunchtime and by the end of the day I managed to walk for long enough to get through all of lesson 21 as well. To be honest, they weren't terribly useful lessons as they were mainly teaching how to ask people whether they've got children and say how many children you've got. But I've decided that, since I only do Pimsleur when I'm in Birmingham and my schedule means I'm only working in Birmingham for a couple of days a week at the moment, I need to make the most of those days to get through as much Pimsleur as possible :lol:

Inspired by finding the text and audio of Twilight in Russian last night, I decided to install LWT on my computer. In a fit of over-optimism, I convinced myself that I could do this because I'd successfully installed it on a previous computer a few years back. I even went back through old logs to locate a useful post from Brun Ugle which I remembered following to install it last time. If I'd managed it last time, surely I could successfully follow the same instructions now...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nope, an hour later I was ready to throw my computer at the wall. LWT is probably the only thing which makes Anki seem user-friendly. Eventually, after a significant amount of googling, I realised that last time I'd installed this damn thing I was using Windows 8.1 and the instructions are slightly different if you're on Windows 10.

I managed it in the end, but I haven't managed to get the Glosbe dictionary working for Russian. I don't know why - I did manage to get it working for Croatian in 2017, so there's no logical reason for this. Instead I found instructions online for how to set up the Word Reference dictionary as Dictionary 1 and Forvo as Dictionary 2. I normally love Forvo but I don't think it's terribly useful for translations, so I'll have to make another attempt at getting Glosbe to work at some point...

Anyway, after all this effort, I was then able to use LWT to read the prologue to Twilight. If you're familiar with the book, you'll know it's a mere 100 words or so. So the effort definitely feels worthwhile :cry:

I decided to cheer myself up by definitely quitting Anki and starting off my list of useful vocab from TY Russian in Memrise instead. Based on the ratio of words added to time spent so far, I'd say it's at least twice as quick to add the words to Memrise than to add them to Anki. I hope the whole Decks app thing works out. I cancelled my Memrise Pro subscription but I couldn't get a refund, so I've still got Pro until it was due to run out at the end of October anyway. It sounds like that will enable me to use the Decks app offline, once it's created, and I guess by the time my subscription runs out in October I'll be in a better position to judge whether I want to subscribe again.

Total time = 150 minutes. Streak = 77 days
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby PfifltriggPi » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:30 pm

Radioclare wrote:18 March
Today was quite a productive day because I was working in Birmingham.


I, somehow, read that as "I was working in Belarus" and became vicariously quite excited.
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:45 am

PfifltriggPi wrote:
Radioclare wrote:18 March
Today was quite a productive day because I was working in Birmingham.


I, somehow, read that as "I was working in Belarus" and became vicariously quite excited.


I'm sure working in Belarus would be a lot more exciting than working in Birmingham!
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby MamaPata » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:00 pm

I love LWT but yeah, it’s an experience!
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