Elenia wrote:Yep. Me, me, me. My jokes often miss their target, which is in part because the people I talk to don't necessarily understand my humour and in part because I still can't joke in Swedish. I don't need to become a comedian - I can't make jokes in English most of the time, either. But it would be nice to get laughs about as regularly as I usually can when speaking to friends in English. In one of Systematiker's posts from a while ago, he complained that it can take several revisions for his 'voice' to come through in German. I'm not sure my voice ever comes through in Swedish. If it does, it's only for the occasional phrase or sentences. Oh, complain, complain. I know what I have to do to get better. I just have to do it.
This resonates with me so much! There has even been a thread on the forum that included interesting experiences about the fact the non natives are not supposed to show a sense of humour actively and many attempts for it are taken for mistakes instead.
This is one of my goals in my foreign languages and why I don't settle for lots of good advice about smaller vocabulary being enough and similar things. I joke a lot in my native language (one could say my family's native language is sarcasm, it's also a survival mechanism), I use "weird" and rich vocabulary, my style and personality are a mix of the high culture and low. And I hate not being able to be like this in another language.
Of course we need to adapt our sense of humour to a different culture, but that is different from having to suppress this part of our personalities due to either our lack of skill or the prejudices by others. I want my jokes to be judged horrible for the same kind of reasons some people don't like them in Czech, not because I am a foreigner and not supposed to make jokes, or because I mess up linguistically. And I dislike not being free enough to attempt it.
We don't need to be comedians, we just need to be ourselves and that takes some skill in a foreign language. I wish you progress in this so much, Elenia, I am sure you are already well advanced but I understand your desire to go further and break the remaining walls.
I am sure your voice already shines through sometimes, and it will only grow stronger and stronger.