Lingua's 2020 IT, DE, PT, FR (+ dabbling in LAT, SCN & various dialects)

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Re: Lingua's 2020 Italian, German, Portuguese Log (+ dabbling in Latin, Sicilian & dialects)

Postby lingua » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:10 pm

German:
Clozemaster: New: 50 & Reviewed: 254 (multiple choice)
MHz Choice: Kommíssarín Lucas S1E8-10 (195 mins)
PMP: German Verb Tenses: 12.6--12.11

I continued with unit 12 of PMP which covers the past tense. This unit is longer than most so I have a ways to go. As mentioned before the concept itself is easy enough but trying to remember all the irregularities is not. The one thing I didn't quite understand was what makes a verb weak or strong. There wasn't a clear explanation. Unfortunately, the Assimil book still hasn't arrived.

I watched two episodes of Kommíssarín Lucas and part of episode 8. The problem with this episode was that Lucas was taken as a hostage and it was too unbelievable for my taste. This show series is from the early 2000s and Lucas is a strong woman but they still treat her character in some sexist ways that ends up annoying me. I liked this series at first but the last few episodes are getting to be a bit much. Also there has been an uptick in violence which I have no tolerance for. I like the process of catching the criminal and have no interest in experiencing the crime itself. This concludes season 1 and if season 2 continues on in this way I'll move on to something else.


Portuguese:
Clozemaster: New 140 & Reviewed 212 (text input)
PTLab: Beginner Short Stories
rtp.pt: Madeira Tem Sabor ep1
rtp.pt: Podcast: Café das 3 (58 mins)
Wrote: 60 words

I listened to two Beginner Short Stories on PT Lab: A primeira conversa -- a Maria & A primeira conversa -- o Carlos. In both cases it was a short description of where they lived, what languages they spoke what they were studying or where they were working etc. After that there were a series of questions that I had to answer. I focused on pronunciation since that is still a weak spot. I also used this as a basis to write a few words about myself using the same information. It was pretty short though.

I found a bunch of podcasts and video shows under gastronmia on https://www.rtp.pt/play/programas/gastronomia/canal. I have listened to several episodes of the podcast Café das 3 where a host interviews Chef Vítor Sobral. I find the host somewhat easy to understand but the Chef less so. But I feel like I'm getting the rhythm of the language. Madeira Tem Sabor is a newer series about the island of Madeira. The first episode was on bananas. I honestly understood very little but could make out some words and got the gist just from the video side. It was still interesting to see how they cut the bananas, wash them and repackage them until they end up in the market. Also how green they were.


Latin:
Clozemaster: Reviewed: 104 (text input)

Latin gets very little attention. I'm just trying to keep up with Clozemaster and Memrise reviews.


Italian:
Reading: Scrivere bene (o quasi) by Elisabetta Perini <-- 68%
Reading: L'imperfetta meraviglia by Andrea De Carlo <-- 14%
MHz Choice: Imma Tataranni Sostituto Procuratore S1E6 (119 mins)
MHz Choice: Una pallottola nel cuore S3E2 (93 mins)
Italian Easy Reader: Part 1 Ex6-8
Wrote: 345 words

I wrote again this week a little more than last week. I also have two subjects to write on this week from the Easy Reader book. I'm sad that this was the last episode of Imma Tataranni as I enjoyed it. Tataranni is a deputy prosecutor with a photographic memory. She gets involved in the solving of the murder which sometimes gets her into hot water with her boss. It is also a humorous show. Mimi from Montalbano plays a bad guy in this series. There is supposed to be a second season but because of covid it looks like it won't be filmed until next year.

I would have liked to say that I'm getting more done since I gave up news except I didn't completely give it up though I read far less of it than before. It was harder than I thought it would be and I still want to keep up on covid to some degree. I will continue to try to wean myself off of it more in the coming week.

I finished I fratelli Lumière e la straordinaria invenzione del cinema by Luca Novelli. The family was in the photography business and the brothers shot short films in the late 1800s and also worked on some of the first techniques for color film. This book followed the biography and mini-dictionary that most of them did but then followed up with some assignments for kids to make their own movie.

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Super Challenge:
IT film: 2168 / 18000 read: 2199 / 10000
DE film: 2877 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000
RF film: 2538 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000 (FR, LA, PT, SCN)

Output Challenge:
IT wrote: 1788 / 100000 recorded: 62 / 6000
DE wrote: 553 / 50000 recorded: 21 / 3000
PT wrote: 1741 / 50000 recorded: 13 / 3000
FR wrote: 12 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000

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Re: Lingua's 2020 Italian, German, Portuguese Log (+ dabbling in Latin, Sicilian & dialects)

Postby lingua » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:54 pm

I've completed Scrivere bene (o quasi) by Elisabetta Perini. In spite of the subject matter I thoroughly enjoyed this book. There are seven primary sections and they cover the following:

Punctuation: usage of the period, comma, colon, semicolon, parenthesis, font (bold, underline, italic), lists and structure (paragraphs, headings, etc). This isn't really a whole lot different than in English.

Latin words & foreign words: usage of latin and foreign words clarifying endings for plurals and such. The author is clearly biased against the use of what she referred to as itangliano and advises that one always use the Italian when it exists.

Right or wrong: problem words (or spelling) and regional differences (for example for watermelon: cocomero or anguria), etc.

Common expressions: politically correct language, usage of ecco (here), order of personal pronouns, words that get confused (because of their similarity), etc

"Rebellious" verbs (irregularities): problematic irregular verbs, verbs with two choices (devo, debbo for example), etc

How to write: conventions, abbreviations, usage of capital letters, numbers, etc

Pinch of style: this covered style in the sense of your audience: formal vs informal, burocratese, etc.

This was an easy read for what is a somewhat dry subject. The author interjects little blocks of "did you know" to cover some interesting point about a word. Or "a little etymology" which explained the probable reason for an irregular verb which made it more interesting for me. This will serve as a useful reference in the future when I eventually do more writing. I recommend this book to someone who is at least an intermediate level of Italian.

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Super Challenge:
IT film: 2168 / 18000 read: 2199 / 10000
DE film: 2877 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000
RF film: 2538 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000 (FR, LA, PT, SCN)

Output Challenge:
IT wrote: 1788 / 100000 recorded: 62 / 6000
DE wrote: 553 / 50000 recorded: 21 / 3000
PT wrote: 1741 / 50000 recorded: 13 / 3000
FR wrote: 12 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000

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Re: Lingua's 2020 Italian, German, Portuguese Log (+ dabbling in Latin, Sicilian & dialects)

Postby lingua » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:55 am

I took the last week off from languages outside of some Italian reading so most of this is from the prior week. My concentration continues to be a problem though I had a relaxing weekend and today I feel motivated again.

German:
Memrise/Clozemaster
MHz Choice: Kommíssarín Lucas S2E1-4 (348 mins)
PMP: German Verb Tenses: 12.12-12.18

I finally completed the very long unit 12 of PMP which covers the past tense though I skipped 12.19 because it was rewriting a long paragraph into the past tense. My Assimil book is still on back order. I finally called them and they said they were having problems with getting shipments from France. Supposedly it was to arrive by now but it hasn't. It's been two months since I ordered it so I'll give them a few more weeks and if it doesn't arrive I'll request a refund. The second season of Kommíssarín Lucas is back to more normal episodes and so far they've avoided the ridiculous plots.


Portuguese:
Memrise/Clozemaster
PTLab: Beginner Short Stories
rtp.pt: Madeira Tem Sabor E2

I listened to another Beginner Short Stories on PT Lab: Casa da praia (beach house). Also watched another episode of Madeira Tem Sabor which was about making rum. I was able to pick up a few words here and there.


Latin:
Memrise/Clozemaster


French:
MHz Choice: Le sang de la vigne S3E1-4 (360 mins)


Italian:
Reading: Tutta questione di chimica by Giuseppe Alonci <-- 24%
Reading: Due di due by Andrea De Carlo <-- 11%
MHz Choice: Montalbano: Salvo amato, Livia mia S1E35 (120 mins)
MHz Choice: Una pallottola nel cuore S3E3-5 (295 mins)
Podcast: Di Wine Taste (196 mins)
Italian Easy Reader: Part 1 Ex9-11

I finished L'imperfetta meraviglia by Andrea De Carlo. It takes place over four days. An English rock star meets an artisan gelato maker. He's engaged and she lives with a woman (she's sworn off men) and is supposed to be having a procedure to have a kid. The chapters alternate between the two of them though often his are longer. It's very much a book on reflection regarding life and such. De Carlo has written more than 20 books. Some of the Amazon reviews suggested that his earlier books were better and two reviewers mentioned Due di due so I decided to read it next. So far I preferred the first book. Due di due started out slow though it's starting to grow on me.

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Super Challenge:
IT film: 2168 / 18000 read: 2199 / 10000
DE film: 2877 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000
RF film: 2538 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000 (FR, LA, PT, SCN)

Output Challenge:
IT wrote: 1788 / 100000 recorded: 62 / 6000
DE wrote: 553 / 50000 recorded: 21 / 3000
PT wrote: 1741 / 50000 recorded: 13 / 3000
FR wrote: 12 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000

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Re: Lingua's 2020 Italian, German, Portuguese Log (+ dabbling in Latin, Sicilian & dialects)

Postby lingua » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:24 pm

German:
Memrise/Clozemaster
MHz Choice: Kommíssarín Lucas S2E5-6 (172 mins)
MHz Choice: Tatort: Borowski S3E3-4
PMP: German Verb Tenses: 13.1-13.7

I started unit 13 on the perfect past tense and found it relatively easy. Still waiting for my Assimil book unfortunately. If Schoenhof's stock count of -3 is correct it would seem I'm not the only one. I looked at several of their other Assimil offerings and the stock count was always 0 so it's possible they only order from Assimil when they have orders.


Portuguese:
Memrise/Clozemaster
PTLab: Lesson 21
rtp.pt: Telejournal (12 mins)
wrote: 312 words

I decided to restart PTLab lessons. Lesson 21 covered the right thing to do using dever + infinitive. The examples used both the present indicative and imperfect indicative. I ended up writing a lot of sentences using the example sentences as a model. I tried to watch one of the shows on rtp.pt a couple of different times and after a few minutes I encountered buffering problems. I even switched my VPN to Portugual in hopes it would help but it made no difference. I don't know if it's the time I'm trying to watch or if the site is having some problems. I want to return to Madeira Tem Sabor but so far have been unsuccessful. I may have to try to find another site or a different time of day.


Latin:
Memrise/Clozemaster


French:
Clozemaster
MHz Choice: Le sang de la vigne S4E1-3 (279 mins)
MHz Choice: Crime en ... Aveyron S1E1 (90 mins)

I'm sorry to say that I did 20 French sentences (from Italian) in Clozemaster so I may be adding this language against my better judgement. MHz Choice has a lot of French shows and there are a handful that I'd like to watch. But for now I will only do vocabulary building work. Crime en ... is a show that has a different cast and different place in France each episode. A little over dramatic but I didn't mind the plot. I was paying a lot of attention to the words and subtitles and my other Romance languages are a great help. Latin will probably be the one to suffer if I spend more time with French.


Italian:
Reading: Tutta questione di chimica by Giuseppe Alonci <-- 49%
Reading: Due di due by Andrea De Carlo <-- 46%
MHz Choice: Meraviglie: S1E1 (53 mins)
Italian Easy Reader: Part 1 Ex12-18
wrote: 63 words

Meraviglie is a tour on the wonders of Italy. Each episode showcases different areas. In E1 the host Alberto Angela (a journalist) presents the Bourbon Royal Palace of Caserta, Italy's largest monastery in Padula and the ancient caves of Matera. This is an excellent show for Italian beginners because Angela speaks very clearly and slowly. He often pauses for dramatic effect. MHz choice has another series that he also hosts called A Night In ... Florence, St Peters, Pompeii, etc. They would be another good choice for beginners.
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Super Challenge:
IT film: 2168 / 18000 read: 2199 / 10000
DE film: 2877 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000
RF film: 2538 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000 (FR, LA, PT, SCN)

Output Challenge:
IT wrote: 1788 / 100000 recorded: 62 / 6000
DE wrote: 553 / 50000 recorded: 21 / 3000
PT wrote: 1741 / 50000 recorded: 13 / 3000
FR wrote: 12 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000

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Re: Lingua's 2020 Italian, German, Portuguese Log (+ dabbling in Latin, Sicilian & dialects)

Postby lingua » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:08 pm

German:
Memrise/Clozemaster
MHz Choice: Kommíssarín Lucas S2E7 (87 mins)
Nico's Weg: 1: Hallo! & Kein Problem

I had somewhat given up on ever getting the Assimil book so I decided to start over with Nico's Weg this past week. So of course Shoenhof's sent me a shipping notice on Saturday. :roll: German with Ease should arrive in the next few days. In spite of that I plan to continue on with Nico's Weg at the same time.


Portuguese:
Memrise/Clozemaster
PTLab: Lesson 22 & Everyday Vocabulary: Roupa (clothing)

Lesson 22 of PT Lab covered identifying what there is using haver/existir and ter. This was an easy to understand concept. I also did one of the Every Day Vocabulary modules which is one of two parts covering clothing.

Latin:
Memrise/Clozemaster


French:
Memrise/Clozemaster
MHz Choice: Crime en ... Martigues & Cevennes S1E4-5 (173mins)

I started Kwiziq but because I've not yet paid for it I will only do a little bit each day or two to take advantage of what is available for free. I never intended to learn French but since it now attracts me I'm going to go with it.

Crime en (Murder in) is an okay series but I will continue to be picky about which ones I watch. I skipped one due to the super natural theme.

Italian:
Reading: Tutta questione di chimica by Giuseppe Alonci <-- 68%
Reading: Giallo su giallo by Gianni Mura <-- 11%
DVD: Pista Nera / Rocco Schiavone (100 mins)

I watched Pista Nera again. Once I get through all of the episodes I have I'll start the newest book. I finished up Due by due (which I'll discuss in a future post) and immediately started Giallo su giallo.

With Memrise & Clozemaster I normally do between 5-10 minutes per language per day excluding Italian.
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Super Challenge:
IT film: 2168 / 18000 read: 2199 / 10000
DE film: 2877 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000
RF film: 2538 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000 (FR, LA, PT, SCN)

Output Challenge:
IT wrote: 1788 / 100000 recorded: 62 / 6000
DE wrote: 553 / 50000 recorded: 21 / 3000
PT wrote: 1741 / 50000 recorded: 13 / 3000
FR wrote: 12 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000

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Re: Lingua's 2020 Italian, German, Portuguese Log (+ dabbling in Latin, Sicilian & dialects)

Postby lingua » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:15 pm

German:
Memrise/Clozemaster
MHz Choice: Kommíssarín Lucas S2E8-9 (175 mins)
Nico's Weg: 1-2

I've continued on with Nico's Weg. The A1 section is divided into 18 units and each unit has four lessons. Each lesson takes between 8-12 minutes. Currently I'm doing one lesson each day or two. I had tried Nico's Weg earlier in the year and got a little bored with it. But my attitude has changed now to thinking of it as a supplemental resource because each lesson covers a specific grammar point.

The Assimil book has finally arrived via US mail after 13 days. Ridiculously slow. I have a time consuming project to do over the next couple of weeks so it's unlikely I'll start it until early next month since I want to follow the suggested process.


Portuguese:
Memrise/Clozemaster
PTLab: Lesson 23 & Everyday Vocabulary: Roupa (clothing)
rtp.pt: Português - 1.º e 2.º anos

I started Lesson 23 of PT Lab and will complete it later this weekend. I also did the second part of the every day vocabulary that covers clothing. On PT Lab some of the other subscribers were mentioning https://www.rtp.pt/play/estudoemcasa/ for Portuguese students. I watched one show where the teacher was reading a book. It was a book to learn how to count using a fly. It was kind of cute though they could have done a better job of showing the pages so I could more easily read along.

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Latin:
Memrise/Clozemaster


French:
Memrise/Clozemaster
MHz Choice: Crime en ... Lozère S1E6 (91 mins)
Kwiziq: A0 exercises & tests

I ended up paying for a year of Kwiziq so now I've committed myself to this language for better or worse. I like Kwiziq and have no plans to use other sources outside of Memrise and Clozemaster at this time. Famous last words. One of the biggest benefits is the voices are of real people and they will answer questions. I'm doing some of the specific A0 exercises as well as the ones the AI recommends. So after about two weeks this is where I am.

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Italian:
Memrise
Reading: Tutta questione di chimica by Giuseppe Alonci <-- 72%
Reading: Giallo su giallo by Gianni Mura <-- 76%
MHz Choice: Meraviglie: S1E2
Easy Reader: 19-20, review (completed Part I)
2 one hour sessions w/italki teacher

I did Memrise for the first time in months with Italian. I wanted to test my long term memory. I seem to have retained at least 95% of the words and phrases. I resumed my sessions with my italki teacher last week and even after a rather long break where I didn't talk at all she said I was doing great. The funny thing is most of my errors were with gender even with words that I know well. I think it may have been some interference with the other languages. I finished Part I of the Easy Reader which I'm happy about because it was getting boring. Part II is on the history of Italy so it should be more interesting.
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Super Challenge:
IT film: 2168 / 18000 read: 2199 / 10000
DE film: 2877 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000
RF film: 2538 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000 (FR, LA, PT, SCN)

Output Challenge:
IT wrote: 1788 / 100000 recorded: 62 / 6000
DE wrote: 553 / 50000 recorded: 21 / 3000
PT wrote: 1741 / 50000 recorded: 13 / 3000
FR wrote: 12 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000

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Re: Lingua's 2020 Italian, German, Portuguese Log (+ dabbling in Latin, Sicilian & dialects)

Postby lingua » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:10 pm

I have recently completed two books and wanted to make sure I got them down before I completely forget the plots.

Due di due by Andrea De Carlo. This is one of 20 some books written by De Carlo and seems to be regarded as one of his best ones. I'll have to read more books by him before I agree or not. This was a fairly long read and divided into two parts. The first part is a typical coming of age story with Mario the narrator and his friend Guido. In the first part there is no real sense of Mario's personality as he tends to follow Guido's lead. We are supposed to see Guido as a handsome charming young man but I didn't find him to be so. I thought he used Mario and was generally a jerk. Guido is unhappy with the way things are in Milano. He hates the government and they both attend protests. Guido embraces anarchy to a point. After completing high school they go to Greece for a vacation and by the time Mario returns he goes into a depression due to events that occurred there. Instead Guido goes to London and eventually Australia. At the end of part 1 Mario's stepfather dies and leaves him some money with the stipulation that he use it to find his happiness.

In part 2, Mario starts to find himself and you finally get a sense of who he is. He buys land out in the country, refurbishes one of the houses, meets a woman in a bookstore who ends up living with him. Together they work the land and try to become completely self-sufficient. They have twins. Guido returns at one point, leaves and returns again for an extended time, writes a book and leaves a second time. Guido also drinks heavily and seems never to be happy. His book gets published and is quite popular. He's not happy with his success because nobody truly understands his message. Mario is the one living the life that Guido says he wants but can't be bothered to put in the hard work to achieve.

This is supposed to be quasi autobiographical as the author also spends time in London, Australia and the US. I think it's a book worth reading. I like the writing and will continue to read other works by this author.

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Giallo su giallo
by Gianni Mura. Gianni Mura was a sports giornalist for La Repubblica who died earlier this year. Evidently he's mostly known as writing about the Tour de France which he did since 1967. He also was still writing on his old Olivetti and dictating his news stories. He branched out to writing non-fiction.

I didn't much care for this book because at least half of it was devoted to the Tour de France. It's an easy read due to the writing style which is written in a narrating/reporting style, unsurprisingly. There is a a series of deaths (not all murders) that occur on the Tour. In doing some research it looks like the Tour in this book was from 2005. The author has little imagination as he uses the real names of himself, his long time driver and his wife. I had to verify it was indeed fiction at one point. Mura is a person who enjoys good food and wine so there is quite a bit of that in the book. I assume that Mura picked up some French over the years because it's pops up frequently in the book.

It was not a complicated mystery and in fact I guessed who did it early on which is not the norm for me. Still I liked the writing enough that I bought two more books by the author. One is on food and the other another murder mystery using the same primary detective in this book. Unless you have a grand love of the Tour de France I wouldn't recommend it as that part was pretty boring. He doesn't use real names in the Tour but he speaks often of Sheldon. Eventually I was able to determine that Sheldon was supposed to be Lance Armstrong. This isn't a sport I follow so I recognized no other riders.

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Super Challenge:
IT film: 2168 / 18000 read: 2199 / 10000
DE film: 2877 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000
RF film: 2538 / 9000 read: 0 / 5000 (FR, LA, PT, SCN)

Output Challenge:
IT wrote: 1788 / 100000 recorded: 62 / 6000
DE wrote: 553 / 50000 recorded: 21 / 3000
PT wrote: 1741 / 50000 recorded: 13 / 3000
FR wrote: 12 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000


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