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Re: SGP's Music Language Log [Solresol, music communication, Pirahã;;; animal sounds, ...]

Postby SGP » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:27 pm

Solresol (a musical constructed language): overview & some advantages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myx0cgiM1q0

None of the reasons mentioned in the video are sufficient arguments for me to actually learn Solresol. However, I still do like covering it in this log. And I never intended it to be a Solresol learning log anyway. It simply is about everything that is included in its title (i.e. multiple topics that are about both of language and music).
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Re: SGP's Music Language Log [Solresol, music communication, Pirahã;;; animal sounds, ...]

Postby SGP » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:32 pm

Solresol words being played on the piano:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyE_Ii-rilE

This language does have its limitations. But it still can sound melodically.
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Tale as old as time

Postby SGP » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:25 pm

Tale as old as time from "Beauty and the Beast"
(This song has two titles. The other one really is "Beauty and the Beast".)

Instrumental philharmonic orchestra version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAaiVlKkZzE

Violin and piano:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CKK6r-2ldQ

Pan flute (and a piano in the background):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpzaqBPhbc0
This one is a bit shorter than the others.

When speaking about just any (instrumental) song, or also analyzing it a little bit, I would decide to use "layman terms" more often than Expert Terms of Music Theory. I am not a Music Theory Expert anyway, but I'd also like this log to be as accessible as possible for everyone. "Accessible" as in: easy to read.

Started listening to the orchestra version right now.

- In the beginning, there is a short intro sequence. It is immediately repeated by a second instrument. This is like saying, "We are starting right now, and we are going to tell you a story". Repetition is used for something like emphasis.

- Then, the main melody starts. It is a simple one (as opposed to: complicated). There is a genre called "Easy Listening". Using its broader definition, I go as far as saying that TAOAT belongs to this very genre.

- Later, around 1:20, there is a Brass or Reed Instrument. I am not too good at distinguishing the timbres of these two types. By the way, for those who don't know it yet, timbre simply means "the sound of a sound". Like the very same note of the very same octave played by two different instruments, e.g. a piano and a harp.

- And that instrument has a sound that is a bit dark. This is a way of drawing attention, or one could call it another type of emphasis as well.

- Does this song have one chorus only, or two of them? If you'd ask me (being someone who didn't memorize the melody at all), I wouldn't be too sure about the answer. While I easily could find it out, I personally even decide against actively doing anything that could provide me with the slightest clue. Although if any of you would mention the answer in a reply, I wouldn't mind at all. But whatever the case may be, knowing if it is one chorus or more than one isn't a requirement for being able to somehow enjoy something about this song anyway.

- If it has two choruses (or should I say chori :D?), then the first one would start right after the intro. As it is no secret, there are very many songs that start with the first verse. Some of you might say that TAOAT starts with the first verse, too, rather than with an intro. And I might respond by saying that we don't differ that much anyway, we are just using different terms to express the basically same thoughts.

- The piano and violin version (or piano and violin cover) isn't that different.

- And the pan flute cover is something like the song's summary, still conveying its basic message.
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Re: SGP's Music Language Log [musical communication, Solresol, Pirahã; animal sounds]

Postby SGP » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:18 pm

Today's post is about these topics:

- Comparing two ways of describing something: spoken language and music.
- Listening to some melodies while learning or revising any language.

Recently, I have been listening once again to an instrumental called "High" by a producer named LYFO: https://soundcloud.com/lyfomusic/high .

Because he decided to use a picture of some clouds to represent his song, I can conclude that it is about something that is "high", as in: "sky level". And as for me, personally, that track does make me think about the clouds above us, to some extent. There are certain ways of (musically) causing some more vivid and more direct associations as well. But still, listening to a song like this could be a starting point.

After I started to actively think of the clouds and how they look like, etc., the picture that I am imagining became more clear. So that is one way of connecting languages like English or Spanish to musical descriptions of just anything. These two components (i.e. a spoken language and music) could be sort of a powerful combination when they are connected to each other.

I also did some small Polish revisions while listening to it. Because this is one of the (instrumental) songs that make me, personally, do feel some additional positive emotions, it was one of the means of getting into the mood some more. The same effect also has been observed while I was listening to some other tracks that contain certain tonal elements that I really like. They include Tale as Old as Time, and that one is the topic of the previous post. Especially when it is about a song that doesn't have a very verbose and content-dense melodic message, I do, at times, like to listen to them in the background while reading.

If anyone of you had some similar experiences when listening to any type of instrumental music, I'd really like to hear about your experiences as well.
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Connecting music to Spanish, French, German, English, Swahili, and Japanese

Postby SGP » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:43 pm

This VLog is about connecting music to these six languages:
Spanish, French, German, English, Swahili, and Japanese.

I made a few attempts of expressing some of their phrases in a musical way.
There also are a few other subjects being mentioned, like the overall purpose of my videos. No matter if they are about music or something else. Basically, I wouldn't want to reinvent the wheel, but to do something else instead. Like some out-of-the-box thinking and maybe also bringing up a few new ideas. Some of them might be useful to the "average ambitious language learner" ;). And others maybe would then be improved or even remixed by anyone else. Looking forward for hearing whatever you'd like to tell me about anything.





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Re: SGP's { Music | Arts | Poetry | Foods | Plants | Sign Languages | Alphabets} Log - EN e peut-être otras spraken tamb

Postby SGP » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:07 pm

The scope of this log has been greatly expanded. Even the title is an entirely new one:

SGP's { Music | Arts | Poetry | Foods | Plants | Sign Languages | Alphabets} Log - EN e peut-être otras spraken também

Because of that, I also edited the first post. There, some very important points have been mentioned. Including the limits of the food and plants area of this log.

Whenever I make any new post in this thread, I would mention both the topic/s and the language/s in its beginning.
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Re: SGP's { Music | Arts | Poetry | Foods | Plants | Sign Languages | Alphabets } Log - EN e peut-être otras spraken tam

Postby SGP » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:00 am

Arts (EN): A visual representation of several types of (oral / written) speech

[1] "Easy Flow of Speech". Something that doesn't include any Verbal Stagnations, and it isn't difficult to understand either. So it simply flows like a river. The words and sentences fit to each other. If these sentences were mosaic tiles, they could be combined with each other seamlessly. This image contains what is called a Plasma, which is a certain kind of GFX (graphical effects).

Easy Flow of speech - Rendered Plasma 1.jpg


[2] Reducing content density, and simplifying some things. This image is based on the previous one. However, it has been oilified. It represents a speech that has a reduced amount of content-density. Also, there are some simplifications. But does speech still does convey some information. The image could stand for any of the following: a pidgin, Simple English, toki pona (the approx. 130 words constructed language), or using any easy-to-understand subset of any major/minor natural language.

Reducing content density , and simplying some things - Oilification of the Plasma.jpg


[3] Mentioning some ideas that may have some potential, but they aren't fleshed out yet.

This is the very basic Blueprint A. Crayon pastels. Didn't even think of trying anything fancy. But I did aim to draw something that can be improved later on in one way or another.

Some ideas,but not fleshed out yet - Blueprint_A.jpg


[4] Brainstorming (one person or more than one). A Visual Remix of Blueprint A. It does introduce some new ideas and Style Elements. However, it didn't arrive at the stage of the desired final result yet. That's why there also is some fog / steam / something cloudy.

Brainstorming_Blueprint_A_Visual_Remix.jpg


[5] Vagueness. This is, again, based on the "Plasma Effect" image included above. But so many details and Key Concepts have been removed. It represents an ultra-short speech. So being too brief also has some potential pitfalls.

Grayscale vagueness.jpg


[6] Based on Blueprint A: Something more concrete. Some details have been removed. They may be even relevant to some of the readers/listeners. But they can read / hear about them elsewhere (in another speech, or in a linked post, or wherever else).

I can't really include the image because of the "five attachments per post" limit. But one could picture it as Blueprint A [3], except that it was drawn in the Cubism style.
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Re: SGP's { Music | Arts | Poetry | Foods | Plants | Sign Languages | Alphabets } Log - EN e peut-être otras spraken tam

Postby SGP » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:03 am

Just made two other Plasma Effect images.

These are some keywords I connect to both of them:

Language variants - Polyglottery - selecting whatever one intends to learn - Vocabulary Subsets

Doing one thing after another - not restricting oneself to the Surface Level only - not rushing in

Spaced repetitions - concrete concepts - details - absence of boredom

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rendered_plasma_3_grid.jpg
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Re: SGP's { Music | Arts | Poetry | Foods | Plants | Sign Languages | Alphabets } Log - EN e peut-être otras spraken tam

Postby SGP » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:36 pm

As a part of my current "beyond English C2 understanding and word usage", I am taking a closer look at some rhymes as well. This eventually also lead to making some on my own, like the one below. But "be warned". It has the usual "SGP flava" ;).

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