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Re: Korean Study Group / 한국어 스터딩

Postby Dragon27 » Tue May 10, 2022 6:38 pm

alaart wrote:Take the word 공 - zero for example, that often sounds like it is pronounced with an u. On forvo the speaker hmmlala pronounces it more like o, and the other speaker more like u.

It's just a very close /o/, in my opinion. When it's so high, it almost becomes /ʊ/. Natives probably feel like it's the same sound, but our non-native ears feel like it's a completely different vowel (o vs u).
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Re: Korean Study Group / 한국어 스터딩

Postby leosmith » Wed May 11, 2022 5:10 am

Dragon27 wrote:It's just a very close /o/, in my opinion. When it's so high, it almost becomes /ʊ/. Natives probably feel like it's the same sound, but our non-native ears feel like it's a completely different vowel (o vs u).
I was told ㅗ used to be ㅜ for many words, then there was a spelling reform.
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Re: Korean Study Group / 한국어 스터딩

Postby Dragon27 » Wed May 11, 2022 5:41 am

leosmith wrote:I was told ㅗ used to be ㅜ for many words, then there was a spelling reform.

What about the quoted example on forvo? I don't really hear the actual /u/; I might be wrong, of course.
What kind of a spelling reform is that? Did they lie to me about the wonderful phonetic writing of Korean? (:
Is there any info about which words were changed during that spelling reform?
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Re: Korean Study Group / 한국어 스터딩

Postby leosmith » Wed May 11, 2022 4:13 pm

Dragon27 wrote:
leosmith wrote:I was told ㅗ used to be ㅜ for many words, then there was a spelling reform.

What about the quoted example on forvo? I don't really hear the actual /u/; I might be wrong, of course.
What kind of a spelling reform is that? Did they lie to me about the wonderful phonetic writing of Korean? (:
Is there any info about which words were changed during that spelling reform?

The first one sounds more like ㅜ than ㅗ to me, and the second one sounds more like ㅗ. Regarding the spelling reform, I couldn't quickly find you an answer. Maybe ask here?
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Postby yutzpracachiasarang » Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:44 pm

Hello! I'm new to this whole site as a user (been lurking for a bit), and this looked fun so I'll join. Please treat me well!

Why are you interested in Korean?
So, funny story, I'm obsessed with 90s K-pop (if you get what my username is referencing you're a real one), and a lot of K-pop content from then doesn't have English subs. And one day, I decided I'd had enough, and started to really learn Korean last December. I'd been picking up random Korean for a bit before then, but December was when I decided I was truly going to study. But the reason I keep going is that K-pop and Korean culture's history is so fascinating to me! Sometimes I can find myself just really getting into a really weird topic that would probably not be accessible if I didn't know Korean. That's one of the benefits of learning a new language – you can learn stuff about the country it comes from along the way.

What is your goal for this language?
I'm already intermediate, so I can read a good amount of stuff, but I'm still not an expert. Understanding the majority of most spoken Korean content without subtitles would be nice – I'm already at that road, but of course I can't understand everything. And also being able to read proper novels would also be nice. Again, I have done that somewhat, it's just that I'm at a lower level than would allow to read an 이상 or something; guess I'll just have to stick to 어린이 and 청소년 books.

Do you have a favorite Korean language song?
Oh god, even before I started learning I've always been a huge K-pop fan. (Well, not always, but for a pretty long time.) My favorite K-pop song of all time would probably be Romeo + Juliette by SHINee. No matter what goes on with my actual faves, SHINee will always be special to me because their music is just so!! Damn!! Good!! (Oh, and if you haven't before, please listen to Love Belt by Jonghyun and Younha. You won't regret it, especially if you love R&B goodness like me!)

What is your favorite feature of the Korean language that you've encountered so far in your studies?
Hmm, y'know, I think it's all the verb endings. Just when I thought I've finally got hang of all the ways you can say 구나 or something like that, I come across, like, 구먼. I have all this grammar in my head I probably will never get to use or see often and that's okay. Also, dialects! I've been getting into the Chungcheong dialect lately, but other dialects are cool too. Sometimes I randomly find myself saying 뭐라카노, y'know?

Have anything else you'd like to share about yourself?
So, y'know, my primary reason to learn Korean was because I wanted to understand my 1st gen 오빠s and 언니s, but a secondary reason is that I also wanna sub videos from those idols so less people have to go through the process I have. And I have succeeded at that front - there's this segment on this TV show 놀라운 세상 called 스타의 전생, and even though I don't believe in the concept behind it, it's very interesting and it also has Korean subtitles for the most part and I'm good at text. The segment basically uses hypnosis to get a glimpse of idols' so-called past lives. It's still fun to watch even when you're not into that kind of stuff – I like to think of it as telling a story in your head. Sometimes it can get really dramatic too, like when Yoon Kyesang from g.o.d did it. (Actually, crying while under hypnosis is a rather common occurrence on this show...)
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Postby rdearman » Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:05 am

Been a long while since I posted anything in this thread, but I thought I would drop some links to resources I have been collecting. They are not in any sort of order:

https://youglish.com/pronounce/%EC%9D%BC/korean
https://mirinae.io/#/
https://www.unipage.net/en/learning_korean
https://aaronandclaire.com/how-to-make- ... teokbokki/
http://world.kbs.co.kr/service/index.htm?lang=k
http://두루책방.com/
https://www.howtostudykorean.com/
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5739/5739-pdf.pdf
https://jr.naver.com/s/aesopsfables_sto ... sNo=171640
https://nuri.iksi.or.kr/front/main/main.do
https://kornorms.korean.go.kr//regltn/r ... book/15538
https://m.blog.naver.com/osy2201/221212497563
https://comic.naver.com/webtoon
https://www.donga.com/
https://www.w3newspapers.com/south-korea/
https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 19&t=12987
https://en.dict.naver.com/#/main
https://www.learnkoreanlp.com/p/learn-k ... nline.html
http://korean.sogang.ac.kr/kkl100/contents.html
https://papago.naver.com/?sk=auto&tk=ko&hn=0&st=lunch
https://archive.org/details/Audio-Bible ... %84%9C.mp3
https://www.wordproject.org/bibles/audi ... /index.htm
https://www.goethe-verlag.com/book2/EN/ENKO/ENKO016.HTM
https://www.twoponds.co.kr/en/snu
https://global.ebs.co.kr/global/elearning/internet
https://www.topik.go.kr/TWMAIN/TWMAIN0010.do
https://krdict.korean.go.kr/mainAction
https://www.topikguide.com/previous-papers/
https://wortschatz.uni-leipzig.de/en/download/Korean
https://play.typeracer.com/?universe=lang_ko
https://www.youtube.com/@SpeakingKorean/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/@kingsejonginst ... /playlists
https://www.youtube.com/@study2734/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/@Korean_DreamSower/playlists
https://nuri.iksi.or.kr/front/page/site ... ap/main.do
https://www.youtube.com/@KOREANFULLCOURSE
https://www.youtube.com/@ComprehensibleInputKorean
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Re: Korean Study Group / 한국어 스터딩

Postby Picaboo » Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:12 pm

I didn't know this thread existed. I'll do the intro questions for fun.

Why are you interested in Korean?
When I was young I was interested in Japan. There was something mysterious and ancient-seeming about the culture. All I knew about Korea was from the show M.A.S.H... so I wasn't intrigued. I got interested in Korea through the videogame Starcraft (all the great players are Korean). Then five years ago I found out about K-Dramas.

What is your goal for this language?
I would like to understand anything anyone says in the language. (I'd settle for 95% now that I know how hard that is).

Do you have a favorite Korean language song?
My favorite Korean band is Say Sue Me. I've been into alt/indie music from before it had a name. Most of their songs are in English (not that you can tell) it's shoegaze-mumble pop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKHbmx43Vggv=ub80ksenGH8&t=1s

What is your favorite feature of the Korean language that you've encountered so far in your studies?
I love the simplicity and expressiveness of the verb endings. Especially in shorter sentences where they hard-carry the meaning.

Have anything else you'd like to share about yourself? Go ahead!
I don't know if I'd do it again, knowing how much effort it has taken to get to a level to truly enjoy the language. Maybe I would. I'd like to think I would....
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Re: Korean Study Group / 한국어 스터딩

Postby nooj » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:27 pm

The National Institute of the Korean Language has made online a contemporary Korean translation of the original Hunminjeongeum (the description of the Korean alphabet, published in 1443). Also accompanied with an English translation.

https://www.korean.go.kr/front/etcData/ ... ageIndex=1
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Re: Korean Study Group / 한국어 스터딩

Postby lichtrausch » Wed May 03, 2023 2:39 am

Some abbreviations of vulgar language that afford (im)plausible deniability:

ㅂㅅ can be 병신, but also 빙수 (shaved ice) or 비수 (dagger).
ㅅㅂㄴ can be 시발놈, but also 선배님 (one's senior).
ㅈㄹ can be 지랄, but also 재롱 (act cute).

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Re: Korean Study Group / 한국어 스터딩

Postby Mirae_learner » Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:22 am

Hi,
I'm new to this platform.
I am a beginner in Korean, and I hoped that I could find a friend here who might want to practice speaking with me.
Personally, I'd like to become fluent in Korean in a undecided amount of time. I got interested in Korea and the Korean language through kpop, and now it's grown out to my dream to one day live there. I'm still in school, so it's going to take multiple years before I get there, but I'd still like to become fluent in Korean early on.
I hope someone will be interested in learning with me, and furthermore I wish everyone the best!

Ps: please note that I am in the Amsterdam timezone, and I personally think it would be harder to learn together if there's a time difference of over 4 hours...
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