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Ug_Caveman
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Re: Dutch Study Group

Postby Ug_Caveman » Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:26 am

So I've gone for it and entered the CNaVT A2 exam, figured I had to get on the ladder at some point and (even if it goes wrong) it's a valuable learning experience for someone who hasn't sat an MFL exam since they were 16.

If anyone has any tips or advice on how to prepare it would be much appreciated :)
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Faust
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Re: Dutch Study Group

Postby Faust » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:15 am

I was hoping for some thoughts on the best first Dutch course(s) based on the small collection at my local library.

There are two books from Henry R. Stern (201 Dutch Verbs and Essential Dutch Grammar).

In terms of courses with audio, they have:
Spoken World: Dutch
Prisma Dutch for Self Study
Hippocrene Beginner's Dutch
Assimil: Dutch With Ease

There is not a ton of info on these, but it seems the Spoken World course is well regarded.

Question on the Dutch With Ease course. The other three seem to be clear they are Dutch pronunciation, but this course has the Belgian flag on the cover as well. Can someone confirm if this pronunciation is Dutch or Flemish?

Lesson 22: Een pakje voor mevrouw: https://sndup.net/69k5
Lesson 62: Weer een betje humor: https://www.sndup.net/6dn2

The Prisma Course seems to have no info out there about it. The introduction notes it teaches the most common 1,000 Dutch words, and I'd say from flipping through that it seems the most comprehensive in terms of drills/exercises. So I think it may be a bit heavy to do first. However, if anyone has experience with it, I'd love to hear.

If the pronunciation is Dutch in the Assimil audio linked above, I think I would just do Spoken World: Dutch + Assimil: Dutch With Ease as the initial combo to begin, course wise.
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Le Baron
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Location: Pays-Bas
Languages: English (N), Dutch, French, German, Esperanto (a very worthy language). Studying: Spanish, Swahili, rather slowly, but surely. Also Sranantongo in the past with my wife, but it has lapsed.
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Re: Dutch Study Group

Postby Le Baron » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:51 am

The audio in the sample is standard Dutch. A bit theatrical, but standard. Guttural 'g', standard pronunciation of the ei/ij etc. The Belgian flag is on there because you can speak standard Dutch in Belgium and be 99.9% understood (other way around less so sometimes unless it's 'Algemeen Vlaams').

I'll just add that for all practical purposes it doesn't really matter if the Dutch comes from NL or Belgium because it's all Dutch. I wouldn't want to be pulled into a quagmire about the actual differences, but if you are e.g. listening to the 'journaal' on the Flemish tv channel éen and you happen to be in Rotterdam or wherever, the newscasters are not speaking a different language or using different vocabulary 99% of the time. The people with regional accents or dialect inflections might be harder to understand, but you get that on the Dutch news as well! And they even subtitle that sometimes.
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