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Re: Esperanto Study Group

Postby Iversen » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:45 pm

Anna Lowenstein has also been a regular contributor to the UEA conferences, where I among other things have heard her advocate the use of "Second life" - and she apparently has done lectures there too, see for instance this video by her avatar.

Btw. I have bought both the Hobbiton and the Mastron de la Ringoj during such conferences.
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Duolingo Esperanto Tree 2.0

Postby luke » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:56 am

Mi vizitis http://duolingo.com/ kaj vidis, ke nun estas esperanta arbo 2.0. Estas novaj lecionoj, novaj vortoj, novaj frazoj, novaj amuzoj. Mi esperas, ke vi ĝuu ĝin.

I visited Duolingo and found that there is now a version 2.0 Esperanto tree. There are new lessons, new words, new sentences and new fun. I hope you enjoy it.
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Re: Esperanto Study Group

Postby Tutescrew » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:30 pm

Hello,

I am pausing my Spanish learning to re-start Esperanto. I have dabbled in Esperanto over the last decade, mostly with Duolingo. I am now going to use the Teach Yourself book (3rd Edition with audio) as my primary course at home. However, I am looking for some audio-only learning material for my commute times. There does not seem to be much beginner material in that format, although I may not be looking in the right locations. Any suggestions?

Dankon!

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Re: Esperanto Study Group

Postby luke » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:31 pm

Tutescrew wrote:I am looking for some audio-only learning material for my commute times. There does not seem to be much beginner material in that format, although I may not be looking in the right locations. Any suggestions?


Jen Nia Mondo can be used as an audio-only course. It started at a 15 minute radio program to teach Esperanto. There is an English speaking narrator who explains most of what is going on. The course has 2 parts. There are also 2 books that go with it. The books are helpful, but not required. I only bought the CDs. There are PDFs of the books out there somewhere.

I have used Jen Nia Mondo many times while driving. I've re-listened to it a bunch of times. As you listen more and more, it will become clearer and clearer. I went through it in waves. That's what I would tend to recommend. By "wave", I mean you listen to lesson 1 one day, then 2 the next day, then 3, then 4. There will be things you miss in each lesson, and they will become more challenging as the course progresses. Then when you go back to the beginning, it will be easier.

There are 25 lessons in all. 12 in part 1, 13 in the second part. As the early lessons got to be "too easy" or "nothing new", I would leave them out of future waves, or maybe only listen to the dialogue for the lesson.

If it ever gets too hard, just go back to the beginning. As a lesson gets too easy, just listen to and/or shadow the dialogue.

It covers a lot of the basic words. There is some science behind the words they selected for the course. Basically, they covered all of the most frequently used words and a fair portion of some frequent, but not as frequent words. (They come from the Baza Radikaro Vortaro, which splits the 2500 or so most frequent words into 9 groups, based on their "ofteco" (frequency)).

Each part of the course has three audio CDs. Each lesson has a 2-3 minute dialogue and 12-13 minutes of talking about the dialogue and the grammar and words used in the dialogue.

It's a great supplement or a great primary course.
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Re: Esperanto Study Group

Postby luke » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:55 pm

Tutescrew wrote:I am looking for some audio-only learning material for my commute times. There does not seem to be much beginner material in that format, although I may not be looking in the right locations. Any suggestions?


Another possibility is Pasporto al la Tuta Mondo. This is actually a video immersion course, but it can be turned into an audo-only course. Here's how I did it:

I bought the videos, which includes a CD/DVD with transcripts of all the vidoes as well as a group of exercises for all the lessons. Those don't HAVE to be used to get a lot out of the course.

Convert videos to mp3s. The videos are all on youtube. There is at least one free good youtube to mp3 converter on the net, but I forget which one it is. (If the website tells you you have out of date software and need to install an update, just close the browser and search for a different youtube to mp3 converter.

Then, you can optionally split each 27 minute lesson into smaller parts if you want. I split each lesson into 4 mp3s.
1) Intro remarks.
2) The first 1/2 of the play for the lesson.
3) Second 1/2 of the play.
4) Closing remarks, which are in Esperanto and may emphasize a grammar point or two.

Parts 1 and 4 are about 2-5 minutes each. Parts 2 and 3 are about 8-10 minutes each. This was convenient for my attention span and the length of trips I tend to take.

Then listen and possibly shadow the audio. That was my main learning method with the course. The videos are very helpful and I do recommend watching them at least once before listening to the audio. It will help you understand what you're saying.

Overall, this course is fantastic. The whole series, 15-16 lessons is about 8 hours. The story is like a soap opera or situation comedy. For me, it didn't get boring, although I watched and listened to it many times. Part of what keeps it interesting is that each time through, you get a bit more than the previous. So, similar to my suggestion of "waves" for Jen Nia Mondo, I would do the same with this course. The course progresses, so it may be hard to understand exactly why the actors are doing what they are doing at first, but as your Esperanto improves, it just gets funnier and you appreciate it more.

Note, this course is 100% immersion. The videos are entirely in Esperanto, but it is designed for beginners. At times I would go to the transcript or the dictionary to get a better understanding. In and of itself, this makes for a multi-track method.

Also, since the course is a bit of a behemoth, you can come back to it later in your studies of if it ever gets too hard or too dull.

A lot of pedagogic thought went into it.
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Re: Esperanto Study Group

Postby Spoonary » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:38 pm

I really enjoyed Pasporto al la Tuta Mondo. It's a fun series which slowly increases the complexity of the language used. It can feel a bit melodramatic at times ("Mi svenas! Mi falas!"), but I don't think it takes itself too seriously.
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Re: Esperanto Study Group

Postby luke » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:12 am

Another supplement for learning the Baza Radikaro Oficiala (BRO) ... If it's in the BRO, it's on my current "to learn" list.

The iPad has a free Esperanto/English dictionary. It's very handy when there is no Wi-Fi. If I also have a BRO is handy, (say, as a PDF), I look the word up in both places. If it's in the BRO, I touch the word in the Esperanto/English dictionary. This adds the word to the lookup History (and brings up a pronunciation screen). Later, I look through the dictionary history to pre-learn or re-learn my BROs.
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Printempo Esperanto-Rentontiĝo

Postby luke » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:50 pm

La Printempo Esperanto-Rentontiĝo en la sud-oriento de Usono okazos ĉi semajnfino. (vendredo ĝis dimanco, la 20-a ĝis la 22-a de aprilo, 2018). Du plenaj tagoj por paroli, amikiĝi, kaj lerni Esperanton. Mi volus vidi vin tie.
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Evildea - via dio

Postby luke » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:45 am

Evildea Metodo - What's up guys?

Evildea is an energetic YouTube vlogger. The youtube to mp3 method can be used with his videos. I'm doing that now.

His 29 latest Esperanto videos are 3 hours and 15 minutes of rapid fire, enthusiastic parolado.

Not an endorsement, but http://mymp3converter.com/ is converting the videos without telling me Adobe is out of date (which would probably be an invitation to download and run a virus).

Of course this method could be used with a variety of videos. The ones mentioned in this thread are ones I've used and believe useful.

P.S. the Printempo Esperanto-Rentontiĝo was worthwhile. In addition to the Esperantists from Usono, there was one who was born in Ruslando and another from Peru.
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Re: Esperanto Study Group

Postby IronMike » Wed May 09, 2018 1:30 pm

La 51-a Esperanto Sumoo komencigxos cxi-dimancxon. Cxu vi partoprenos?
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