Question: How do you pronounce the s/z?
For the z I have heard a variety of pronunciations, including one that sounds exactly like Standard European Spanish interdental fricative, but I think that might be contact influence from Spanish. Normally, it seems to be similar to English /s/.
I'm having a tough time with s, can anyone help with distinguishing between s/z? Ideally, it would be great to have a list of minimal pairs and audio. Or something like showing where to place the tongue, like I've seen on some websites for other languages.
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Re: Basque Group 2017
nooj wrote:Question: How do you pronounce the s/z?
For the z I have heard a variety of pronunciations, including one that sounds exactly like Standard European Spanish interdental fricative, but I think that might be contact influence from Spanish. Normally, it seems to be similar to English /s/.
I'm having a tough time with s, can anyone help with distinguishing between s/z? Ideally, it would be great to have a list of minimal pairs and audio. Or something like showing where to place the tongue, like I've seen on some websites for other languages.
For me the 'z' sounds like the US 's' sound, whereas the 's' has a slight 'sh' feeling to it. Look at the description on page 19 of Alan R. King's Basque manuscript:
http://www.alanrking.info/wp-content/up ... G-ABC2.pdf
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Btw, i came across a Discord group to practice speaking Basque and ask questions, there are a couple native speakers who are pretty active there and i will be there as well
https://discord.gg/eUVkNEq
https://discord.gg/eUVkNEq
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In case you didn't know, today is International Basque Day (Euskararen Nazioarteko Eguna)! Happy Basque Day everyone!
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Someone shared this video of a bertsolari on the Discord group yesterday:
There's a translation into Spanish in the comments
There's a translation into Spanish in the comments
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nooj wrote:That was me.
Haha great, thanks for sharing! I ended up watching a ton of those videos
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Here is a jazzy song by the north Basque singer Maialen:
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Re: Basque Group 2017
Kaixo denoi! Just wanted to mention that i got in touch with LyricsTraining about adding Basque to their list of languages and they were very enthusiastic about it, i'm currently working on adding videos up. They said forty quality videos (official music videos from official channels that are less likely to get taken down) that'd be a good start. So far i've uploaded 16 and have compiled a list of another 25, though i can't find lyrics for two of them. If you all have any requests (official music videos w/ lyrics) feel free to share them here and i'll go on uploading them.
Here are the songs i've already uploaded/synchronized lyrics for:
1. Huntza - Aldapan Gora
2. Zea Mays - Negua Joan Da Ta
3. Anne Etchegoyen - Hegoak
4. Ken Zazpi - Bihotz
5. Go!azen - Kaixo (same song as Urtz)
6. Esne Beltza - Hil Zuten
7. 2ZIO - Hotza
8. Eñaut Elorrieta - Deserriko Kontradantza
9. Oliba Gorriak - Batasunaren Indarra
10. Iheskide - Arrano Beltzaren Hegaldiak
11. Willis Drummond - Joan Ikustera
12. Urtz - Txuri-Beltzean
13. Glaukoma - Gure Kaiola (gipuzkera)
14. Go!azen - Gure nahia
15. Zea Mays - Elektrizitatzea
16. Zea Mays - Orain
Here's the list i've put together that i'm still waiting to upload:
M.A.K. - Denok ala inor ez (no lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTL7CpOxe5c
En Tol Sarmiento - Zure Mundua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRXEcXjhic
Berri Txarrak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmXXQzIDrrw
Berri Txarrak - alb=Payola - Jainko Ateoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8pWzAFI3pQ
Iseka - bizi ala hil (2015)- pentsatu (no lyrics?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BlUZmEUmo
Izaki Gardenak - hibernazioa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAwZItnPUW0
Ahuntzape - Heriotzatik ihesi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT4QVasKOok
d-pintxos - ederra mundua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcjJJ-o1nFI
The Convicts - kateei lotuta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWhejipjp-g
Hesian - Zerotik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2lD-vp7n-I
Hesian - Izar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_cFYayuR4
Su ta gar - Bazoaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDhLwf__P2A
Ziakhus - Akabatuta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WIKBUBXOyc
Hutsa - Nire eskuak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KC19yK22k0
Mikel Urdangarin - Zurea da
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pav_SqQM2No
Xaramela - Guk euskaraz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgSfffHrwM
Ken Zazpi - Zapalduen olerkia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXOjGAcDjTc
Various - Nafarroa berria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQf64D94Jm8
Kuraia - Piztu da piztia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAtt4oQas0g
Erokomeri - Euskal hitza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1CjhcLH1PY
Benito Lertxundi - Itsasoari begira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQUlJNlBkJY
Benito Lertxundi - Kantuz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNlsoGEi3Fg
Hesian - Guregatik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhladVgIFqc
Jare - Zu lagun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vlbzpuYo3I
La basu - Trakamatraka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wRdVhiaqvA
Here are the songs i've already uploaded/synchronized lyrics for:
1. Huntza - Aldapan Gora
2. Zea Mays - Negua Joan Da Ta
3. Anne Etchegoyen - Hegoak
4. Ken Zazpi - Bihotz
5. Go!azen - Kaixo (same song as Urtz)
6. Esne Beltza - Hil Zuten
7. 2ZIO - Hotza
8. Eñaut Elorrieta - Deserriko Kontradantza
9. Oliba Gorriak - Batasunaren Indarra
10. Iheskide - Arrano Beltzaren Hegaldiak
11. Willis Drummond - Joan Ikustera
12. Urtz - Txuri-Beltzean
13. Glaukoma - Gure Kaiola (gipuzkera)
14. Go!azen - Gure nahia
15. Zea Mays - Elektrizitatzea
16. Zea Mays - Orain
Here's the list i've put together that i'm still waiting to upload:
M.A.K. - Denok ala inor ez (no lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTL7CpOxe5c
En Tol Sarmiento - Zure Mundua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRXEcXjhic
Berri Txarrak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmXXQzIDrrw
Berri Txarrak - alb=Payola - Jainko Ateoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8pWzAFI3pQ
Iseka - bizi ala hil (2015)- pentsatu (no lyrics?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BlUZmEUmo
Izaki Gardenak - hibernazioa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAwZItnPUW0
Ahuntzape - Heriotzatik ihesi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT4QVasKOok
d-pintxos - ederra mundua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcjJJ-o1nFI
The Convicts - kateei lotuta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWhejipjp-g
Hesian - Zerotik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2lD-vp7n-I
Hesian - Izar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_cFYayuR4
Su ta gar - Bazoaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDhLwf__P2A
Ziakhus - Akabatuta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WIKBUBXOyc
Hutsa - Nire eskuak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KC19yK22k0
Mikel Urdangarin - Zurea da
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pav_SqQM2No
Xaramela - Guk euskaraz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgSfffHrwM
Ken Zazpi - Zapalduen olerkia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXOjGAcDjTc
Various - Nafarroa berria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQf64D94Jm8
Kuraia - Piztu da piztia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAtt4oQas0g
Erokomeri - Euskal hitza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1CjhcLH1PY
Benito Lertxundi - Itsasoari begira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQUlJNlBkJY
Benito Lertxundi - Kantuz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNlsoGEi3Fg
Hesian - Guregatik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhladVgIFqc
Jare - Zu lagun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vlbzpuYo3I
La basu - Trakamatraka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wRdVhiaqvA
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Btw, the bertsolari championship is going on now and streaming live:
http://www.eitb.eus/eu/kultura/bertsolaritza/
http://www.eitb.eus/eu/kultura/bertsolaritza/
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