East Asian Study Group

An area with study groups for various languages. Group members help each other, share resources and experience. Study groups are permanent but the members rotate and change.
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ロータス
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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby ロータス » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:04 pm

Christi wrote:
ロータス wrote:Instead of jumping right into blogging, try Twitter.


You mean posting status updates or replying to some Korean celebs? Do you know of any celebs with interesting tweets?


Write whatever you can write xD Try to follow people that interest you and they write in Korean. Don't worry about what to write, just write.
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Laskeph
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Languages: English (native), Cantonese (heritage, not fluent)
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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby Laskeph » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:50 pm

I'd like to join for Mandarin and Japanese!

Unfortunately I'm a bit too late for the January Challenge. I guess I'll check back next month :)
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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby ロータス » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:45 am

Laskeph wrote:I'd like to join for Mandarin and Japanese!

Unfortunately I'm a bit too late for the January Challenge. I guess I'll check back next month :)


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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby ロータス » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:30 pm

January challenge almost over.

Goal: none
Completed: 438 words

Nice that I have stats on words I actually know and not just seen in an SRS. I guess I will buy CTA even tho I hate that if I'm not sure on a word, I have to look it up outside of CTA or else I lose that word as being 'Known' >_> Really stupid feature when Mandarin has so many words with so many meanings.
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Christi
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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby Christi » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:05 am

ロータス wrote:January challenge almost over.

Goal: none
Completed: 438 words

Nice that I have stats on words I actually know and not just seen in an SRS. I guess I will buy CTA even tho I hate that if I'm not sure on a word, I have to look it up outside of CTA or else I lose that word as being 'Known' >_> Really stupid feature when Mandarin has so many words with so many meanings.


When I joined this group two weeks ago I said I wanted to learn 100 words in one month. But in just these two weeks I have already learned 113 new words! I can recognize all of them, using them actively is more difficult but I'm working on it :) But I managed to find myself a language exchange partner so hopefully I will get to activate these words more.
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Korean memrise stats: 1254 / 2000
Aesop and Korean folktales: 1 / 30
Once upon a time in Korea: 8 / 23
Yonsei Reading 2: 1 / 40
The restaurant of the family that hates reading: 11 / 123

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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby Finolia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:40 pm

January challenge: 103/100 words

Although I can't say that I can really use all of them actively I am satisfied :) 103 words less that keep me from reading without stumbling ;)
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Elementary Vietnamese: 8 / 14

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Nandemonai
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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby Nandemonai » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:11 am

113 new cards in January, a little over my goal of 100. Nothing too crazy but better than nothing =)
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aledda
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Dabbling: Italiano (beginner), Deutsch (beginner)

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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby aledda » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:48 pm

I thought I've already posted here, but apparently not.

My main focus for now is Japanese but I used to study Mandarin (which I have to pick up again) and I'm "beginning" with Korean.
My log is here (I started it last year, but I barely updated it.)

I'll try to participate in the future challenges
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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby Whodathunkitz » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:34 am

Cebuano (Austronesian; malayo/polynesian language of the Philippines with around 20 million speakers but not many learning resources).

I have been speaking it most days, but not actively learning for a year (university course on Spanish and technical study for work took priority).

First week back learning:-

Memrise - 1500 sentences - I get about 1 in 50 wrong - so very happy with that.

I've read 65 pages of a language guide / grammar written by Mormons. 65 pages remain.

I've had 3 sessions with a tutor over skype.

Repeated from my blog with minor edits - I'm thinking that some of the Listening-Reading should be intense study of the text. Sentence construction, pronounciation, prosody, intonation, ways in which verbs are conjugated and whether this is modern colloquial usage or old style.

Good:
pronunciation (this was a worry until recently)
clear / understandable
accurate
speed
wide and deep vocabulary

Needs Work:
conjugating verbs
other affixes
sentences
prepositions
various

Next steps:
work towards long sentences
prepositions
various
verbs that look like nouns(?)

Subjects:
learning - how, what, why
how children develop

Goals:
To speak colloquial Cebuano at home and on holiday in July. Ruled out formal Bisaya.

Method (tutor):
Not quite sure yet - next session.

Method (overall / comprehensive):

Memrise / quizlet / ankidroid are good fill ins (no need to concentrate, even do while watching TV). I haven't updated the memrise app so that I can still use it without wifi (phone data).

L-R - some ability to concentrate, but can pause it.

Grammar / language guide takes real effort and quiet.

Tutor - need to dedicate time - hard with work and other commitments.

1) finish guide (65 pages)
2) Memrise / quizlet / ankidroid etc Cebuano expressions
3) I have magbinisaya kita primer 1. Skim/read it. A5 160+ pages especially grammar review page 111
4) repeat 2 a bit
5) MODERN-ish bible gospels (need to check order but I think Mark, Luke, Matthew). Perhaps just a few pages. This WRITTEN bible is 1970s translation and closer to modern usage. Previous version I used for listening-reading befuddled native Cebuano speakers.
6) l-r old Bible app. Language seems archaic but I have the audio/text linked. Best bet for listening / pronounciation practice.
Now more developed an idea...
i) Read English (1) - R1
ii) Listen Ceb-Old (2a) + Read Ceb-Old (2a) - L2a+R2a
iii) Listen Ceb-Old (2a) + Read English (1) - L2a+R1
iv) Read Ceb-New (2b) + Speak Ceb-New (2b) out loud - S2b
v) Write - anything in Cebuano - notes, words, anything - W2
vi) Speak out notes - S2
vii) Write Ceb-New - copy by hand, highlight interesting (for later lookups) - W2b

7) other media (Wikipedia, Duterte tv from when he was mayor)
8) Look at written notes and spot patterns, look up info
9) repeat / complete all above while having Skype sessions from a tutor.

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2018 Cebuano SuperChallenge 1 May 2018-Dec 2019
: 150 / 600 SC days:
: 6 / 1250 Read (aim daily 2000 words):
: 299 / 9000 Video (aim daily 15 minutes):

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Re: East Asian Study Group

Postby Monox D. I-Fly » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:53 pm

So I am preparing for the next Super Challenge which I heard would be held about next month. Since my target languages are Arabic and Japanese, I want to watch some Japanese anime with Arabic subtitles. Can any of you give some links to download them for free? I heard from my friend who is a Japanese literature graduate that some of them are available on YouTube but with the keywords written in Arabic script. So if, say, I want to watch Digimon with Arabic subtitle on YouTube, what keywords should I use (in Arabic script)?
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Read 5,000 pages of Arabic books: 785 / 5000
Watch 9,000 minutes of Arabic videos: 1641 / 9000

Read 5,000 pages of Japanese books: 783 / 5000
Watch 9,000 minutes of Japanese videos: 1532 / 9000


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