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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Balltongue » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:43 pm

Hola. Yo soy de Caracas, Venezuela. Viviendo en Ciudad de Panamá. Mi idioma nativo es español y me pongo a la orden para ayudar a cualquiera que necesite ayuda.

Hi, I'm from Caracas, living in Panama City. I'm a native speaker of spanish and willing to help anyone. [phone number removed] just hit me up for pronunciation. Anytime.
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Kraut » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:18 am

There's a new series on Spanish TV channel LA 1 (also aired at the same time on TVE Internacional with subtitles): La otra mirada

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_otra_mirada

Ambientada en una academia para señoritas en la Sevilla de los años 20, muestra un centro de enseñanza aferrado a una forma inquebrantable de hacer las cosas y a las tradiciones propias de la ciudad y de los tiempos. Todo este universo y sus pilares se tambalean con la llegada de una nueva profesora, con una forma muy distinta de ver las cosas y que tiene un objetivo secreto relacionado directamente con la academia. La búsqueda de la propia voz de un grupo de mujeres adultas y jóvenes será el destino de las protagonistas.




La otra mirada mostrará un centro de enseñanza aferrado a las tradiciones propias de una capital de provincia en la época de entreguerras. Todo este universo y sus pilares se tambalean con la llegada de una nueva profesora que viene con un objetivo secreto relacionado directamente con la academia.

La serie retrata la sociedad de la época a través de mujeres adultas y valientes junto a jóvenes llenas de ilusión que afrontan problemas y retos muy actuales y es un homenaje a la institución educativa.



http://www.rtve.es/television/la-otra-mirada/

The first episode is here, it can be downloaded with VideoDownloadHelper ( but without subtitles).
Do you know a free software that can download both video and subtitles from the TVE site? Then it could be run in Lingo Player.
http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/la-o ... z/4581988/

The airing of the episodes is followed by a documentary on the subject "Retratos con Alma", on TVE Internacional, it's also subtitled.

En el primer programa hablamos sobre las libertades de la mujer y los logros que se han conseguido a lo largo de los años. Trataremos la incorporación generalizada de la mujer a la educación, al mercado laboral y la conciliación familiar.


http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/retr ... 1/4582058/
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Jaleel10 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:38 pm

Kraut wrote:Do you know a free software that can download both video and subtitles from the TVE site? Then it could be run in Lingo Player.


https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/380 ... om-rtve-es

[I don't think it is against the rules to share here]

I wish I could watch RTVE. Sadly region lock, as well as half of Netflix Spanish catalogue. Oh well. There are always other ways.
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Kraut » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:51 pm

You could receive RTVE Internacional with a satellite dish, they also beam this program to South Africa and carry a lot of LA 1 and LA 2 programs, and almost all are subtitled.
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Jaleel10 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:11 pm

Kraut wrote:You could receive RTVE Internacional with a satellite dish, they also beam this program to South Africa and carry a lot of LA 1 and LA 2 programs, and almost all are subtitled.


Oh wow. You are actually right. I remember a few years ago we had a bouquet for Portuguese channels and one for German channels. And to my surprise Spanish as well. But......... Sadly you have to configure your decoder to do it according to the settings on http://www.rtve.es/television/tve-inter ... mo-vernos/ to watch it. Which is a bit too much effort since I don't even watch satellite tv anymore lol. But I will keep this in mind!

I can still watch any Spanish show I want too, there are other options and I have already found tons that I can't wait to watch ! I already found, for instance, Gran Hotel with accurate subtitles that I may use for when I practice my listening.
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Kraut » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:32 am

Nice text about cheating shop-assistants:

Servicio al cliente

http://www.learnpracticalspanishonline. ... iente.html

“¡Que tenga un buen día!” dice Paolo cuando le entrega la bolsa y el recibo al cliente. El cliente les da las gracias y se va de la tienda.

“Otro vendido” dice Paolo mientras recoge el periódico para leer la sección de deportes. “No sé qué vamos a hacer con el resto. La gente va a empezar a darse cuenta.”

“Lo sé” responde Hugo. “Éstos son de muy mala calidad. Algunos de ellos ni siquiera duran un mes. Le di uno a un amigo el fin de semana pasado y me dijo que hizo que se disparara el detector de humo.”
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Andy E » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:13 am

Jaleel10 wrote:https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/380455-Downloading-subtitles-from-rtve-es


That's exactly how I get the subtitles from RTVE. One thing to note - VLC Player plays VTT subtitles without needing to convert. Should mean Lingo Player will also play them (as it's based on VLC Player).
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Jaleel10 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:40 pm

Question for the group

Health means everything - La salud lo es todo

A sentence I encountered today. I would never think to translate it like that. I'd say "La salud significa todo", "La salud es todo". But my native friend friends says La salud lo es todo sounds natural (or more natural than those). They could not explain why though :lol:

So here I am, a hopeless learner, asking for help.

I know "Lo" is tricky but it generally means "the thing", "the matter of". So in this sense the sentence is split in two. Health, it is everything ? How would I know when to do this in speaking and writing. Does it all just come down to practice and being corrected ?

I know saying "means/is everything" triggers the use of lo (I used DeepL Translator) . I.e. Your opinion means everything to the company - Su opinión lo es todo para la empresa. Does it have something to do with "todo", that it requires an article ?
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Andy E » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:18 pm

Jaleel10 wrote:Question for the group

Health means everything - La salud lo es todo
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I know saying "means/is everything" triggers the use of lo (I used DeepL Translator) . I.e. Your opinion means everything to the company - Su opinión lo es todo para la empresa. Does it have something to do with "todo", that it requires an article ?

You've hit the nail on the head. Butt and Benjamin has this to say:

B&B wrote:When the direct object follows the verb, use of a redundant object pronoun is common with todo:
ahora me lo tienes que contar todo

In this case as a direct complement, the DPD goes further:

The DPD wrote:En el español general, el complemento directo tónico pospuesto al verbo no suele admitir la coaparición del pronombre átono, salvo que se trate también de un pronombre personal, caso en el que es obligada (→ 5.1). Solo es normal la duplicación en todo el ámbito hispánico cuando el complemento directo tónico es el pronombre todo: Lo sé todo;
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Re: Spanish Group

Postby Jaleel10 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:58 pm

Andy E wrote:
Jaleel10 wrote:Question for the group

Health means everything - La salud lo es todo
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I know saying "means/is everything" triggers the use of lo (I used DeepL Translator) . I.e. Your opinion means everything to the company - Su opinión lo es todo para la empresa. Does it have something to do with "todo", that it requires an article ?

You've hit the nail on the head. Butt and Benjamin has this to say:

B&B wrote:When the direct object follows the verb, use of a redundant object pronoun is common with todo:
ahora me lo tienes que contar todo

In this case as a direct complement, the DPD goes further:

The DPD wrote:En el español general, el complemento directo tónico pospuesto al verbo no suele admitir la coaparición del pronombre átono, salvo que se trate también de un pronombre personal, caso en el que es obligada (→ 5.1). Solo es normal la duplicación en todo el ámbito hispánico cuando el complemento directo tónico es el pronombre todo: Lo sé todo;


Thank you so much, Andy. This has been bothering for more than I am willing to admit haha. I must have complete missed it in Butt and Benjamin; that is usually the first place I look. But I see it now !
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