Team Middle East

[ibrahim awaad]

i will upload files to learn arabic

[Arnaud]

The course has several volumes and looks very recent, so much so the third volume was only released mid 2017 and volumes 4 through 7 are yet to be released. Put together, all volumes are designed to be a year-long of intensive study combined, with each volume around 7 or eight weeks of relatively intensive work, but could of course, be stretched out over a longer period. Thus, it’s pricey, but it appears it would be money well spent, if you can afford it.

You can see the four first weeks of the italian version of the course here (all the audio is free on the author's site).
The author explains that his course doesn't use any transliteration nor "short vowels".
From the pdf, one can see that he introduces a few letters in the first week (in red), builds a base on these few letters and goes on to the week 2 introducing more letters, etc.

[PeterMollenburg]

The course has several volumes and looks very recent, so much so the third volume was only released mid 2017 and volumes 4 through 7 are yet to be released. Put together, all volumes are designed to be a year-long of intensive study combined, with each volume around 7 or eight weeks of relatively intensive work, but could of course, be stretched out over a longer period. Thus, it’s pricey, but it appears it would be money well spent, if you can afford it.

You can see the four first weeks of the italian version of the course here (all the audio is free on the author's site).
The author explains that his course doesn't use any transliteration nor "short vowels".
From the pdf, one can see that he introduces a few letters in the first week (in red), builds a base on these few letters and goes on to the week 2 introducing more letters, etc.

Thanks Arnaud for posting that. Yeah I read on the ‘look inside’ option on amazon the same regarding transliteration and so on. I’m not sure what not using short vowels would mean for learning Arabic. I’ve got my hands on some other quality content from a very helpful person so I might begin with that while I work from today through to next week non-stop to save some cashola money for potentially purchasing Manuel d’arabe. Maybe I won’t need want it, we’ll see, we’re talking about PM, the course hoarder here. Thanks again Arnaud!

[Arnaud]

Found in the forum, a temporary link given by the author (to discover the method, for personal use only) :
Arabic made easy with effort 1. (seven "weeks")
The corresponding audio is here (volume 1)

[PeterMollenburg]

Found in the forum, a temporary link given by the author (to discover the method, for personal use only) :
Arabic made easy with effort 1. (seven "weeks")
The corresponding audio is here (volume 1)

Nice find, Arnaud! Thanks! I’m yet to dig through it, it should help me stay distracted from actually studying.

[PeterMollenburg]

Two questions, for anyone experienced or not.

1. Any thoughts on learning MSA and an Arabic dialect at the same time?

(eg can it be done, positives/neg’s, your experience if attempted, time/investment of self required, should dialect be avoided initially or MSA avoided in the beginning, etc)

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2. How much time do you believe is necessary on a daily basis to see good progress in Arabic?

This is a bit vague, so say what comes to mind in your experience with learning Arabic or your judgements if you have not studied it based on whatever it may be. What’s good progress? You tell me, I’m really looking to open a bit more discussion here on endeavouring to learn Arabic from scratch. What’s it take. If you want a level, I’ll say B2, but that’s not strict for the purpose of creating some discussion.
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I’ve read quite a bit already on the above, but just wondering if ppl here have an opinion.

[ancient forest]

1. Any thoughts on learning MSA and an Arabic dialect at the same time?

Some purists to Classical Arabic would be totally against the idea of studying both at the same time. They would first want the person to master Classical Arabic so that it does not mix with the dialect. Yet, if such a student were to take a taxi without any knowledge of the local dialect or modern usage, he might say something to the taxi driver in the equivalent of: "Indeed, I desire to hasten to thy vicinity's marketplace."

I am not necessarily against learning MSA and a dialect at the same time, but I think that there are different goals in learning Arabic such as reading the newspaper/speaking in MSA, researching Classical texts, speaking a dialect fluently, etc. These goals are almost different skill sets, and mastering all of them is really what takes Arabic so long to learn. If one focuses on a particular goal, it will not take nearly as long to learn Arabic. So, I don't see a problem in learning MSA and a dialect at the same time, but if you focus on one particular goal and perhaps do a bit of enrichment in other areas, you will see faster improvement towards your goal.

2. How much time do you believe is necessary on a daily basis to see good progress in Arabic?

I'm not sure.

[Ghalib Al-Hakkak]

I am the author of "Manuel d'arabe en ligne". I would like to mention here the link to the English version for the first seven chapters: https://www.al-hakkak.fr/PDF/Arabic-Mad ... Effort.pdf

It is available on Amazon with two volumes:
Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Arabic-Made-Easy ... 651&sr=1-6
Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Arabic-Made-Easy ... 50&sr=1-12

Till now I worked on the translation of 14 chapters with Alexander Sethi. I still hope to have some feedback about these first volumes.
Thank you

G H

[PeterMollenburg]

I am the author of "Manuel d'arabe en ligne". I would like to mention here the link to the English version for the first seven chapters: https://www.al-hakkak.fr/PDF/Arabic-Mad ... Effort.pdf

It is available on Amazon with two volumes:
Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Arabic-Made-Easy ... 651&sr=1-6
Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Arabic-Made-Easy ... 50&sr=1-12

Till now I worked on the translation of 14 chapters with Alexander Sethi. I still hope to have some feedback about these first volumes.
Thank you

G H

That’s excellent, thank you, G H. It’s nice to have an author of quality language courses stop by

I’m sure there are a number of people who will appreciate this, as do I myself. Merci encore.

Kind regards,
PM

[Ogrim]

I am the author of "Manuel d'arabe en ligne". I would like to mention here the link to the English version for the first seven chapters: https://www.al-hakkak.fr/PDF/Arabic-Mad ... Effort.pdf

It is available on Amazon with two volumes:
Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Arabic-Made-Easy ... 651&sr=1-6
Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Arabic-Made-Easy ... 50&sr=1-12

Till now I worked on the translation of 14 chapters with Alexander Sethi. I still hope to have some feedback about these first volumes.
Thank you

G H

Thank you very much. I am very tempted to buy this course now, although probably the French version of it.

Oh, and I totally agree with your approach not to use transcription into Latin characters.