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Re: Italian study group

Postby reineke » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:39 pm

Congiuntivo in calo, nessun dramma
La Crusca: la lingua è natura, si evolve

«La lingua è dentro di te, tu sei tra le sue braccia». Le parole di Mario Luzi, poste in epigrafe, riassumono bene la prospettiva del nuovo libro di Francesco Sabatini Lezione di italiano. Grammatica, storia, buon uso (Mondadori). Quale prospettiva? «La lingua verbale — dice Sabatini — entra in noi naturalmente dalla nascita e diventa lo strumento ineguagliabile per la nostra crescita culturale»...

http://www.corriere.it/cultura/16_dicem ... ce0a.shtml

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"Ma gli inciampi sui congiuntivi (frequenti tra i nostri politici) hanno a volte suscitato reazioni più vivaci. La più clamorosa fu forse quella di Vittorio Sgarbi nel febbraio 1993. Il critico d’arte era allora sindaco di San Severino Marche (e posava nudo su l’Espresso). Quando nel corso di una seduta di consiglio comunale, il consigliere Pds Scarponi scelse di usare l’indicativo anziché il corretto congiuntivo il sindaco Sgarbi, lo cacciò dall’ aula consigliare: «Vada via, non la voglio più vedere».

Nell’agosto scorso hanno colpito i due congiuntivi sbagliati di Michela Di Biase, moglie del ministro della Cultura Dario Franceschini e consigliera dem al Comune di Roma, forse emozionata per l’attacco lanciato alla neo-sindaca Virginia Raggi (si era agli esordi...). L’errore scatenò i fan dei cinquestelle: « Ahò! Se dice avessero, non avrebbero... Stùdiate li verbi ».

Un «chiesimo» fatale
A volte gli errori hanno rivelato una sorprendente fantasia. Fu il caso del “chiesimo” usato al posto di “chiedemmo” in un tweet del senatore Maurizio Gasparr. In quel caso lo strafalcione costò il posto a Luca Ferlaino, responsabile social network del politico di destra...

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Il congiuntivo è vivo e ha la pelle dura

Della presunta morte del punto e virgola, invece, si parla almeno da ottant’anni; di quella del congiuntivo da quasi settanta.

A differenza di quanto è accaduto in francese, in realtà, il congiuntivo in italiano continua a essere usato spesso e volentieri. Anche se non sempre in maniera impeccabile, come ci dice la cronaca politica delle ultime settimane. Dal fantozziano (giustappunto) «mi facci finire» di Alessandro Di Battista al..."

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Re: Italian study group

Postby rdearman » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:13 pm

Anyone know any online crossword puzzles or word search type things in Italian?
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Re: Italian study group

Postby dampingwire » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:08 am

http://www.cruciverbaonline.it/

http://www.repubblica.it/rubriche/ilcruciverba/

I thought Corriere della Sera had one, but I can't find that right now.
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Re: Italian study group

Postby Spoonary » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:49 pm

Buonasera ragazzi! How's your Italian learning coming along? I'm not really doing much with Italian at present, but I do have plans for the near future which some of you may be interested in.

Stelle and I will be doing another of our communal readings in July, and this time it will be in Italian. :mrgreen:

We will be reading Io non ho paura by Niccolò Ammaniti, which has been recommended by several users on this forum. If anyone was meaning to read this book and would like to join us, feel free :D
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Re: Italian study group

Postby lingua » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:06 am

I believe I read Io non ho paura years ago but maybe I only saw the movie. I would be up to reading it in July (again or perhaps for the first time).

I have just restarted the WellesleyX: Italian2x Italian Language and Culture: Intermediate mooc on edx. I did the Beginner one last year and then puttered out. I'm back at it again to try to pinpoint my grammar problem areas so I can try to fix them. Outside of that I continue with my italki lessons, Italian movies and books.
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Re: Italian study group

Postby bpasseri » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:16 pm

Hi everyone!

What are people's preferred media for Italian? I recently started an Italian course and am finding it pretty easy with a basis in French and Spanish, but it's difficult to think of it as its "own language" in my mind because of its similarity. I'm hoping that with more input I can stop recalling French or Spanish words when trying to remember a word in Italian and give it its own "separate space" in my brain, but I'm at a loss when trying to find good input for Italian. Most other languages I've studied have been pretty major world languages so it's easy to find a lot of input, but at least in the United States Italian is really something people only flirt with superficially, so there are millions of beginner courses but it's impossible to find anything intermediate or above because everyone seems to give up by that point (or are just content to learn the words for wine and pasta :lol: )
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Re: Italian study group

Postby Spoonary » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:07 am

bpasseri wrote:Hi everyone!

What are people's preferred media for Italian? I recently started an Italian course and am finding it pretty easy with a basis in French and Spanish, but it's difficult to think of it as its "own language" in my mind because of its similarity. I'm hoping that with more input I can stop recalling French or Spanish words when trying to remember a word in Italian and give it its own "separate space" in my brain, but I'm at a loss when trying to find good input for Italian.

My advice would be to not waste your time looking for intermediate content. Just dive straight into native material that is of interest to you and puzzle your way through it. Knowing Spanish and French will help you immensely. I can recommend this method because it's what I did. After only a few basic grammar lessons at uni, I started watching videos about books and video games on YouTube, and listening to podcasts. I have now developed a good ear for what sounds right in Italian, and more specific fine tuning of my knowledge of Italian grammar will come later. ;)

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Re: Italian study group

Postby tastyonions » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:01 pm

bpasseri wrote:Hi everyone!

What are people's preferred media for Italian? I recently started an Italian course and am finding it pretty easy with a basis in French and Spanish, but it's difficult to think of it as its "own language" in my mind because of its similarity. I'm hoping that with more input I can stop recalling French or Spanish words when trying to remember a word in Italian and give it its own "separate space" in my brain, but I'm at a loss when trying to find good input for Italian. Most other languages I've studied have been pretty major world languages so it's easy to find a lot of input, but at least in the United States Italian is really something people only flirt with superficially, so there are millions of beginner courses but it's impossible to find anything intermediate or above because everyone seems to give up by that point (or are just content to learn the words for wine and pasta)

Try the podcasts of "Alle otto della sera" for a start: http://www.alleottodellasera.rai.it/

Interesting topics discussed in mostly very "standard" and clear Italian.
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Re: Italian study group

Postby Spoonary » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:11 pm

So it looks like that communal reading of Io non ho paura by Niccolò Ammaniti between Stelle and myself is going ahead at last. If anyone wants to take part, feel free to grab your copy and read along. If there is enough interest, we can create a thread in which to discuss our thoughts. :)
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Re: Italian study group

Postby sgiandubh » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:35 pm

I was inspired by your post and have a copy en route even as I type. Since I am not of the actively commenting sort, I anticipate reading along in my own silence -- but will enjoy it ;-)
thanks for the inspiration.

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