French listening and oral production

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Re: French listening and oral production

Postby Severine » Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:41 am

DaveAgain wrote:I just came across a short video that has an early recording of the Parisien accent, made by Ferdinand Brunot in 1912.

A search of the bnf.fr website brings up more recordings, and publications by Mr Brunot.


Thank you for sharing this. Absolutely delightful.

tastyonions wrote:A nice little discussion of the word dompter and the social nuances of pronunciation:


I really enjoyed this! For anyone who is fascinated by discussions of pronunciation, vocabulary, spelling, etc. as they relate to history, etymology, and class and other social factors, I recommend the fantastic though sadly discontinued podcast 'Parler comme jamais'. You can find it on any major podcast platform, and it's also on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyCRmK8pIHdYtKC0JEIfZV92OhMoM_GTW

The host is easy to understand, and her rotating selection of guests offers a nice exposure to different voices. I was a low to medium B2 when I listened to it and had no real issues. I think my favourite episode was #28, 'À qui la faute?', on orthography and the complex role it plays in French society.
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Re: French listening and oral production

Postby Kraut » Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:16 pm

This is an analysis of the football friendly France-Germany on YouTube. The transcript is by riverside.ai, which offers larger spaces of text in its transcript, thus much easier to follow the content when reading. About 20 minutes and for free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZRYVd6ifAc
On a du boulot... (France 0-2 Allemagne)

https://riverside.fm/transcription
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Re: French listening and oral production

Postby Le Baron » Wed May 01, 2024 8:18 pm

I just listened to an interesting podcast - Un élément clé et négligé de la justice : la traduction on France Culture about the problems of translation in legal settings and by extension policy between nations and diverse language areas. Where breakdowns in translation can be a cause of friction or injustice.

It interested me (enough to listen) because I remembered when I had legal bother here in NL I was infuriated by the use of the word 'fact' (feit) in place of 'claim' (noun) or assertion. At the time in the court I brought this up and insisted that 'fact' means something ascertained and not something waiting to be demonstrated.
However like in French, and actually in English, it is specific legal terminology for 'events' even if only presumed true.

There's a bit of discussion around Ai translations in a legal setting and the serious drawbacks when meaning is garbled. and also the general lack of resources given to what is a rather important part of presenting accurate information.
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