Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby Arnaud » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:27 pm

DaveAgain wrote:What is 'nous' doing here?
To understand the idea, replace the verb "to kill" by the verb "to steal" (to steal something from someone, voler qch à qn).
Nos enfants, on nous les volera puis on nous les tuera.
The people to be killed are part of a group, a family... whose narrator is part (really or in spirit)
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby DaveAgain » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:00 pm

Arnaud wrote:
DaveAgain wrote:What is 'nous' doing here?
To understand the idea, replace the verb "to kill" by the verb "to steal" (to steal something from someone, voler qch à qn).
Nos enfants, on nous les volera puis on nous les tuera.
The people to be killed are part of a group, a family... whose narrator is part (really or in spirit)

Thank you. :-)
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby Carmody » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:39 pm

A Public Service Announcement:

There is a A French Book Reading Resource over in the Language Programs and Resources area.

It is a place where people tell it like it is:
- what we like and don't like when it comes to French authors. No sacred cows; all authors are fair game.
- covers authors both old and new
- answer questions re who you might like to read next
- provide urls for places to go for finding more on French books
- all levels of linguistic ability are welcomed: A1-C1

All this and lots more at absolutely no cost, no tax, and with no commercial interruption.

Go through our earlier postings and discover all the French authors our members have read and what they really think of them and why.

To find out more you may wish to start here:
https://forum.language-learners.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=10113&sid=b63722547b8b2c4aee11b39e3e57e08c

:D

ps: please note, we are Board Certified as having absolutely no taint whatsoever when it comes to prescriptivism.

;)
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby Klara » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:46 pm

It has been a while since my last update - I am really a terrible writer. :oops:

Together with a teacher, I worked through the first chapters of EDITO B1 and it soon became obvious, that I had already reached the B1 level. No problems in speaking and writing or grammar. That's why I decided not to take the DELF B1 exam, it is just not necessary anymore. Instead I will be soon in Nice and enjoy seven days at the French Riviera. This is going to be my "real" exam - putting into practice what I have learned so far…

Just out of curiosity I did the TCF Test Simulation on the TV5 Monde website and scored B2/C1 - which I am definitely not just after 14 months of learning French. But it gave me at least a good feeling.
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In the meantime I have also settled into a new study routine for intermediate French. I always start with a dictée of 10 sentences. My anki-like -Langenscheidt-Vokabeltrainer has around 5000 (!) sentences in French/German with audio, so there is no shortage in the near future. There is a special dictation mode that shows the mistakes, very convenient.
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After the dictée I work with a short text - taken from my language journals or advanced Assimil or a graded reader - always with audio and vocab in German. I make sure, that I really understand every sentence and write some new vocab in my notebook. If I am not in the mood for text, I do some grammar or use another book - also no shortage. Additionally, I have subscribed to the B1/B2 Intermediate French course on coursera, but only as a guest - I do not want to participate actively or have any stress with deadlines.
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So, that was the learning material and now to the native material for listening, watching and reading.
During my 2 x 30 min. workouts per day on the exercise bike, I listen to French radio and podcasts and watch the the daily soap "Un si grand soleil" on TV5Monde.
The evening is reading time and I am a voracious reader. Therefore, I only can do extensive/excessive reading.

What I do enjoy is, that every day one or more of the vocab from the learning sessions will pop up in the native material and that just makes me smiling each time it happens. Today one of these words was massacrant.

Because I have no actual plans or goals, I will stay with this study routine as long as I feel progress.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:10 am

Klara wrote:What I do enjoy is, that every day one or more of the vocab from the learning sessions will pop up in the native material and that just makes me smiling each time it happens. Today one of these words was massacrant.

Yes, it is always fun when something like that happens. Where does that little joy come from, I wonder?
Very impressive regimen of study. I wish I could make better language-learning use of exercise than I do. I use a treadmill, not a bike, but I have a hard time concentrating on reading or listening even to my native language. :(
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby Klara » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:57 am

Yes, it is always fun when something like that happens. Where does that little joy come from, I wonder?
Very impressive regimen of study. I wish I could make better language-learning use of exercise than I do. I use a treadmill, not a bike, but I have a hard time concentrating on reading or listening even to my native language

Thanks for your kind word, mork!

That little joy must be a special gift for us language enthusiasts to reward our studies. :lol:

The bike makes absolutely no noise and I wouldn't survive one minute of pedaling without mental stimulation. So for me it is the other way round, the listening/watching is the biggest motivation for me to get on the bike at all. There is a holding for the smartphone which makes it very convenient to watch or listen. I also considered buying a treadmill, perhaps next year … is it really that noisy?
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:10 pm

Klara wrote:is it really that noisy?
It doesn't seem very noisy to me, but I use one at the gym, so maybe other noises in the gym drown it out. Also, I am listening to music at the same time. And if I have to turn up the volume of the music, it is so I can hear over the other noises in the gym, not the treadmill.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby Carmody » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:31 pm

Just a reminder to people that PodClub is shutting down:
PodClub says goodbye; the time is ripe for something new
Podclub.ch as well as the PodClub app, however, will still be available until December 31, 2019.

Times have changed
The Club School has done pioneering work with PodClub: the first language podcasts went online in 2008 as a novelty. Over the last eleven years, more than 1,500 audio broadcasts have been produced in German and Swiss-German, French, Italian, Spanish and English, and today language learners are asking for new, innovative ideas. The Club School Migros focuses on the developing offers of future language learning. Online language courses, combinations of online and offline learning, short and modularized courses and learning with virtual reality all strengthen and expand the versatile language offered at Migros Club School.

The podcasts are on soundcloud.com/podclub
Of course, the existing podcasts will remain accessible after the end of 2019. From November 1, 2019, the last 30 episodes will be available on soundcloud.com/podclub. This means you will still have the opportunity to immerse yourself in your favourite language at any time.

Thank you for your loyalty and we wish you a lot of language learning fun.

Best regards,
Your PodClub Team
Visit us on Instagram

Since I am a follower of L'Avis de Marie I am downloading her files-totally legally- in preparation for the termination. It is a very time consuming exercise, so if you use Podclub, leave yourself plenty of time to do what you want.

https://www.podclub.ch/en/podcast-page/lavis-de-marie/
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:25 pm

If you have an iPhone or iPod, you can ease the pain of downloading by getting the PodClub-Learning Languages app.
Open the app,
Choose > French > L'Avis de marie

Then subscribe to L'Avis de Marie and start downloading.

Obviously you also can subscribe to Balades.

I found listening to Balades to almost be the same as listening to a friend talk in a coffee shop.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby Carmody » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:00 am



Wouldn't it be nice if other leaders stepped forward to say that.
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