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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:15 pm
by zjones
Cavesa wrote:I'm afraid everyone has already read my praise for the Progressive series too many times :-D, but I'll write it again. I think it is one of the best resources of this kind on the planet, I wish every language had such a series. Sure, there are other good choices too. But one of the advantages of this one is the continuity. Have a look at Intermediaire, Avancé, and Perfectionnement books. They make one great bundle, tackling details and levels the other series don't even try to touch. As you are thinking about the grammar books' usefulness over time, I think you should judge these three levels of the series together, not separately.


Thanks for the recommendation! Is it true that there are separate answer books? Would I then need to purchase each book and its answer key?

Cavesa wrote:Another nice tool is Kwiziq, which several forum members have been content with. I was describing my experience with it rather lenghtily here https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... q&start=70 As far as the digital tools go, this one is the best and it is the only website that can rival the paper based grammar exercise books.


I signed up for Kwiziq and I'm having a fun time exploring the website. My Easy French Step-by-Step grammar book has apparently done me well, since I scored well into the A2 level, hooray!

rlnv wrote:I have the second edition of French Grammar and Usage, a couple of revisions earlier than the one you linked. It's not a cheap grammar, but in my opinion worth every penny. The book is excellent. It's well organized, comprehensive and concise without getting too granular if that makes sense. One of my better purchases for French learning.


Thanks, this is helpful, from viewing a few pages on Amazon, it looks like it would be an excellent reference book.

tomgosse wrote:I like this book. The Ultimate French Review and Practice.


Thank you, I will take a closer look at this on Amazon today.

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:56 pm
by Cavesa
zjones wrote:
Cavesa wrote:I'm afraid everyone has already read my praise for the Progressive series too many times :-D, but I'll write it again. I think it is one of the best resources of this kind on the planet, I wish every language had such a series. Sure, there are other good choices too. But one of the advantages of this one is the continuity. Have a look at Intermediaire, Avancé, and Perfectionnement books. They make one great bundle, tackling details and levels the other series don't even try to touch. As you are thinking about the grammar books' usefulness over time, I think you should judge these three levels of the series together, not separately.


Thanks for the recommendation! Is it true that there are separate answer books? Would I then need to purchase each book and its answer key?


Yes, I recommend buying it. It is annoying it is being sold separately, and not just because of the price (I somehow just like when things are being presented straightforwardly, without the "but you need to buy this and that now that you've paid for our product"). But I think it is very helpful, especially when learning French at the level, not reviewing. You could google sentences (not google translate) to check your intermediate level book answers, but it is annoying. But the books+answer keys together are still worth the price, in my opinion. The new editions even include CDs, which I don't have a personal experience with, but which could be definitely helpful to many learners.

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:53 am
by reineke

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:13 pm
by Carmody
I have many grammar books but The Ultimate French Review and Practice is absolutely my favorite.

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:11 am
by Stefan
I'm wondering about Assimil Using French. Does the mp3 disc contain a unique audio file for each phrase, similar to French With Ease? Or is it just one file per lesson, similar to the regular CDs?

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:17 pm
by zjones
Stefan, unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question. I will be buying Assimil Using French in a few months, and I hope that the MP3 is the same as it is with French With Ease.

I actually came here to share a very, very cool intermediate French podcast that may be useful for those who can't find a good podcast that bridges the gap between beginner and intermediate levels. I think this podcast is for level A2, but it's hard for me to tell because my listening skills lag behind my reading skills. The podcast seems to be high quality and contains interesting information -- the first episode is about Krashen's theories. It's easier than both Balades and Intermediate Slow News in French.

The link is here: https://www.innerfrench.com/podcasts. If you have Spotify, you can listen on there! :)

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:29 pm
by Stefan
zjones wrote:Stefan, unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question. I will be buying Assimil Using French in a few months, and I hope that the MP3 is the same as it is with French With Ease.

Asked a user on Reddit and he claimed that it was individual files. So I just ordered it on eBay since I found it with decent price (€50 incl. shipping). Hopefully I didn't misunderstand him. €116 spent on Assimil and I haven't even begun studying. Audio is expensive. :shock:

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:57 pm
by zjones
Stefan wrote:Asked a user on Reddit and he claimed that it was individual files. So I just ordered it on eBay since I found it with decent price (€50 incl. shipping). Hopefully I didn't misunderstand him. €116 spent on Assimil and I haven't even begun studying. Audio is expensive. :shock:


Reddit always has an answer! :lol: Assimil is expensive, yes, but I think it's worth the price if you have the motivation and dedication to use it (and you probably know what you're in for, since you've learned other languages). The audio quality is the best I've ever heard, hands down, and the books can be used in all kinds of different ways. I will definitely be buying Using French when I've finished my French With Ease. I just looked at your log (I like to keep up with the other French learners) and it looks like you had one heck of a situation with your German copy, though. Ugh.

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:18 pm
by Mohave
Stefan wrote:I'm wondering about Assimil Using French. Does the mp3 disc contain a unique audio file for each phrase, similar to French With Ease? Or is it just one file per lesson, similar to the regular CDs?


Hi Stefan - I completed Using French a few years ago. I pulled out the MP3 discs and listened to a few lessons and reviewed what was on the directory of the first and last disks and I did NOT see unique audio file for each phrase - there was one file per lesson. I hope this helps. I can't recall if you could order Assimil Using French with the individual files, but my version did not include them.

Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2018 Les Voyageurs

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:34 pm
by Stefan
Mohave wrote:Hi Stefan - I completed Using French a few years ago. I pulled out the MP3 discs and listened to a few lessons and reviewed what was on the directory of the first and last disks and I did NOT see unique audio file for each phrase - there was one file per lesson. I hope this helps. I can't recall if you could order Assimil Using French with the individual files, but my version did not include them.

This would be a shame but I really appreciate you taking the time. Do you have ISBN 9782700580549? You're talking about discs but there's only supposed to be one mp3 disc. Do you maybe have an older version with only the four regular audio CDs? Crossing fingers...

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