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Re: French Group 2016 - Les Voyageurs

Postby Mohave » Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:20 pm

Bonne et Heureuse Année! Here is one of my favorite videos for the New Year! I wish everyone a successful 2016 in meeting their goals in French! Enjoy!

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Re: French Group 2016 - Les Voyageurs

Postby unpredictabloke » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:42 pm

Hi Tom, I just signed up to be a Wanderluster, but one of my wanderlust languages is French. :)
My short-term goal is to have some basic conversational fluency by the late January - beginning of February. Just want to have basic conversation phrases down and be able to answer standard questions. This is my log link: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1817

Cheers!
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Re: French Group 2016 - Les Voyageurs

Postby tomgosse » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:56 pm

unpredictabloke wrote:Hi Tom, I just signed up to be a Wanderluster, but one of my wanderlust languages is French. :)
My short-term goal is to have some basic conversational fluency by the late January - beginning of February. Just want to have basic conversation phrases down and be able to answer standard questions. This is my log link: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1817

Cheers!

Bienvenue ! You are on the list. :D
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passé composé or past participle ?

Postby tomgosse » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:00 am

If I want to say, "Today, I studied French," would I use the passé composé, the past participle, or the imparfait ? Merci pour votre aide.

Passé composé: « Aujourd'hui, j'ai étudié le français ».
Past Participle: « Aujourd'hui, je étudié le français ».
Imparfait: « Aujourd'hui, j' étudiais le français ».
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Re: French Group 2016 - Les Voyageurs

Postby rfnsoares » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:04 am

In this case, I would use the passe compose. Past participle does not exist in French.
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Re: French Group 2016 - Les Voyageurs

Postby tomgosse » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:16 am

rfnsoares wrote:In this case, I would use the passe compose. Past participle does not exist in French.

I'm pretty sure it does. If I use le participe passé, I think I should write, Aujourd'hui, je été étudié le français.

EDIT: Or, should I write Aujourd'hui, j'été étudié le français. My cerebral processor is not working tonight. :?
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Re: French Group 2016 - Les Voyageurs

Postby rfnsoares » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:35 am

I'm sorry, tomgosse. You are right. Past participle exist in French, of course, but in this construction you have proposed, I believe you should use the passe compose (first sentence). :)
The second sentence is grammatically incorrect, I think.
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Re: French Group 2016 - Les Voyageurs

Postby Carmody » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:22 am

Since I am new here, I have a lot to learn about making my way around.

For starters I would like to set up the learners bar graphs for my study plan but am not sure where I go to do so. Could you advise?

At the moment I am planning a daily sched. of:

45min-vocabulary
20 min - reading and listening
45min-grammar

At the moment my vocab is based on reading of Huff Post, Le Figaro, and Le Monde in French for 45. From that I draw vocab words that I put on flash cards.

I am using flash cards from Quizlet

My listening is from several sources:

-audiobooks
-rfi, Fr.
-etc.

I am bldg towards taking a class at Alliance Francaise in March.

I have followed this sched for the past month.

Can you tell me where those graphs or bar charts are?

Thanks.

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Re: passé composé or past participle ?

Postby Arnaud » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:37 am

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Re: passé composé or past participle ?

Postby microsnout » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:47 am

tomgosse wrote:If I want to say, "Today, I studied French," would I use the passé composé, the past participle, or the imparfait ? Merci pour votre aide.

Passé composé: « Aujourd'hui, j'ai étudié le français ».
Past Participle: « Aujourd'hui, je étudié le français ».
Imparfait: « Aujourd'hui, j' étudiais le français ».


You would use the passé composé

Aujourd'hui, j'ai étudié le français

If you wanted to say "I was studying French when you called me" you would combine the imparfait with the passé composé like so:

J'étudiais le français quand tu m'as appelé

The past participle étudié cannot be used on its own. It is part of the passé composé and other compound tenses.
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