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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby lusan » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:06 pm

Klara wrote:@lusan: You may also have a look at the books of Franck Thilliez and Olivier Norek.


Thanks. I just bought

Fractures - Franck Thilliez
Surtensions - Olivier Norek

I will place them in my French reading queue.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby DaveAgain » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:38 am

Season 3 of Les Petits Meurtres d'Agatha Christie is going to be set in the 1970s
The following season will be set in 1971 with new characters. The 1970s were just as exciting, with futuristic interior design, geometry, and clothing ranging from ultra-sexy (the miniskirt) to very old-fashioned (long-point collars). What makes it even more interesting is that it was the height of machismo with a patriarchal, masculine vision of society – one that is still subtly present today. As a result, our main character is France’s first female police commissioner.

https://apac.tv5monde.com/blog/en/inter ... a-christie

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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby sanjiu27 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:36 pm

Hi! I'd love to become a member of this thread/group. I'm still a beginner in French, but I'm making progress surprisingly fast because of its close resemblance to the Spanish language (my mother tongue). I'm quite interested in French history and literature, and live only an hour away from the French border, so I'm extremely motivated to learn it well in the coming years :D
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby bedtime » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:56 pm

I ended up reading a three book series of Comtesse de Ségur a few weeks ago:

Les Malheurs de Sophie
Les Petites Filles modèles
Les Vacances


Great French novels for those just beginning to read as the grammar and word choice are very basic and meant for children, though the books are full length novels (200-400 pages). They were written in the mid 1800s and capture the lives of an aristocratic family. I loved the last two of these books the most.

Just finished Après la pluie, le beau temps de Comtesse de Ségur (400 pages) last night. Since people seem to like pictures and samples, as I do, I'll post two from this book:

apres.jpg

apres2.jpg

It's the pictures that make these old books so unique and interesting. There are 128 illustrations in this book. Most new novels don't have any pictures or very few at most. Also, I find the general layout to be a great use of space and pleasing to the eye while at the same time not being too crowded.

Next book might be:

L'auberge de l'Ange-Gardien by de Comtesse de Ségur
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby rpg » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:19 pm

I have a pronunciation/listening comprehension question about this youtube video, at 1:04



The line subtitled "Mais avec chauffeur et tout quoi !" (although he really says "un chauffeur")

The thing is, I absolutely do not hear the v in "avec". I've played this sentence dozens of times now and I'm completely convinced it's not there. It sounds like "Mais a(ve)c un chauffeur" to me. But a native speaker told me "as a French I assure you he did say the ve of avec, it's just soft" so I don't know what to make of that.

The other thing is that the quoi at the end really sounds to me to be pronounced more like /ka/ than /kwa/ but again the same native speaker said "he said quoi properly".

Anyone else have any input? Especially our native French speakers? It's exactly this kind of thing that really gets in the way of my French listening comprehension so I'd like to drill down into it a bit.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby DaveAgain » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:41 pm

rpg wrote:I have a pronunciation/listening comprehension question about this youtube video, at 1:04

The line subtitled "Mais avec chauffeur et tout quoi !" (although he really says "un chauffeur")

The thing is, I absolutely do not hear the v in "avec". I've played this sentence dozens of times now and I'm completely convinced it's not there. It sounds like "Mais a(ve)c un chauffeur" to me. But a native speaker told me "as a French I assure you he did say the ve of avec, it's just soft" so I don't know what to make of that.

The other thing is that the quoi at the end really sounds to me to be pronounced more like /ka/ than /kwa/ but again the same native speaker said "he said quoi properly".

Anyone else have any input? Especially our native French speakers? It's exactly this kind of thing that really gets in the way of my French listening comprehension so I'd like to drill down into it a bit.
I'm not a native french speaker.
Could it be "le mec a un chauffeur et tout, quoi"?
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby Miss_French_2020 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:59 pm

rpg wrote:The line subtitled "Mais avec chauffeur et tout quoi !" (although he really says "un chauffeur")

I'm not a native speaker. When I listen to it, I hear it as "...avec un..." but if I try to pinpoint to the v sound, I can't either at all. Maybe it's just very soft and slurred? The "quoi" sounded normal to my ears.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby Arnaud » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:58 am

Yes, the v is not really there, you "hear it with the brain", so to say.
I don't know if you hear it, but the guy has a typical "popular" accent and way of speaking: the accent is "pushed" on the last syllable, so the penultimate syllable or letter is sometimes swalloded.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby guyome » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:42 am

Same here, I don't hear the /v/. I wouldn't have noticed it though.

And I agree that, to my ears, his "quoi" is not too far from /ka/.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2019 Les Voyageurs

Postby DaveAgain » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:45 pm

Ted talk on french spelling: La faute de l'orthographe
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