Le groupe français 2016 - 2023 Les Voyageurs

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tomgosse
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby tomgosse » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:35 pm

J'aimerais être jeune et en bonne santé pour profiter de cela. French Tech Visas (en anglais).

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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:48 pm

tomgosse wrote:[size=120]J'aimerais être jeune et en bonne santé pour profiter de cela.

The "brain drain" in reverse. Who would have thunk it?
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby Carmody » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:53 pm

I think this has already been posted but just in case some missed it:
Courtesy of italki

The US State Department (Foreign Office) has estimated how long it takes a native English speaker to learn a foreign language:

Category 1A: 600 Class Hours
Examples: French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese

Category 1B: 900 Class Hours
Examples: German, Indonesian, Swahili

Category 2: 1100 Class Hours
Examples: Hebrew, Hindi, Persian, Russian, Thai, Vietnamese

Category 3: 2200 Class Hours
Examples: Arabic, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby Carmody » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:51 pm

Favorite female voices speaking French? Well, this is probably difficult to do, but for those who are able to, check out Béatrice Abetti doing the vocals on the audio files for French In Action.

In fact if anyone out there knows French well enough, I would love to have them tell me what region she is from in France.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby Carmody » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:42 pm

Most Americans know of the NY Times Book Review that, among other things, lists bestsellers in fiction and nonfiction; however I don't seem to be able to find the French equivalent and I have looked extensively.

All I do find is this:
http://plus.lefigaro.fr/note/top-10-bestselling-french-authors-20120119-669649
which is from Le Figaro but it is not an updated listing.

Is there somewhere a weekly or monthly listing in France similar to what we have with the NY Times in the States?

Thank you.
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:24 pm

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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby Carmody » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:14 pm

Thank you so very much it is tremendously appreciated. I really did need the info.

I was literally in the process at the moment of calling Albertine in NYC to ask their advice.

Yes, I had searched in Google repeatedly, but in my Google searches nothing useful was coming up. I really did try.

Thank you! :D :D :D
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby schlaraffenland » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:33 am

How do you prefer to learn and drill verbs?

I'm reasonably certain that I've come back up to the level of French comprehension that I had when I left school. Like, I wouldn't freak out if I saw "que vous eussiez convaincu" in the wild. But my ability to replicate such forms in writing and speaking is still not quite up to par. Especially when it comes to writing, I am apt to make small mistakes when the orthography changes to preserve pronunciation, since I am still pulling these once-learned things out of the depths of my memory.

I'm not averse to doing what could be considered rather mind-numbing drills, like copying out a page per day from 501 French Verbs by hand. But I wonder if that is indeed the most effective use of one's time. I lean a little more toward writing than toward typing for practice, as I simply enjoy writing by hand more, and I feel I don't remember as well what I type. And, it's a long story, but accents can be slightly more complicated for me to type: Linux, and a non-standard keyboard...

Is there anything cool out there I should know about? How do you practice? Do you repeat things out loud, or write out verb forms until your hand drops off?
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby smallwhite » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:12 am

schlaraffenland wrote:How do you prefer to learn and drill verbs?
... 501 French Verbs

(This is not my favourite method, but a suggestion seeing you already have a copy of 501).

I didn't use 501 when I was learning French but did use it for Italian. I drilled orally (because that's how fast you need to be able to conjugate in a real-life conversation; writing is too slow) and I drill in all sorts of different orders (see below):

I eat
you eat
he eats
we eat
yous eat
they eat (typical classroom order, same page in 501, different persons)

I eat
I ate
I have eaten
I will eat
... (same page in 501, same person)

we act
we aim
we answer
we arm
we ask
... (alphabetical order in 501, same person)

they will run
they will jump
they will do
they will find
... (random order in 501 (flipping to a random page), same person)

etc

I timed myself just now and found that I can go through the 6 persons in the first example in 4 seconds, let's say 1 second per rep (per line up there), so 300 reps per 5 minutes. Too easy!

Sometimes I drill with Memrise but Memrise cards average ~5 seconds each minimum because of all the fancy animations, so 5 times the time and nothing to push you to conjugate quickly :(
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Re: Le groupe français 2016 - 2017 Les Voyageurs

Postby tomgosse » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:35 am

Bonne fête nationale du Québec !
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