Classical Languages - Study Group

[einzelne]

Jean le Rond d'Alembert, c. 1764

Reposez en paix, monsieur d'Alembert. Aujourd'hui, tout le monde se fout du latin!

[lichtrausch]

"Professeur de philosophie en classe préparatoire, Thibaut Sallenave a co-écrit «Du latin à l'école !» (Fayard), un manifeste pour rendre l’apprentissage du latin obligatoire. Selon lui, cette mesure profondément égalitaire est la clé pour répondre à la crise de l’enseignement du français, permettant une réappropriation de notre langue."

[galaxyrocker]

Ōsweald Bera, an LLPSi-esque book for Old English, is now available. Looking forward to getting my hands on a copy!

https://ancientlanguage.com/vergil-press/osweald-bera

[Herodotean]

Ōsweald Bera, an LLPSi-esque book for Old English, is now available. Looking forward to getting my hands on a copy!

https://ancientlanguage.com/vergil-press/osweald-bera

I have my copy now and am five chapters in. It seems good enough, though I can't judge the quality of the Old English, but it's nowhere near as good as LLPSI. (That is not meant as a response to your statement, galaxyrocker, that it's "LLPSI-esque," since it certainly is.) It introduces many words without giving enough context to make their meaning clear, which means I'm constantly looking things up in the Old English to English chapter vocabularies or, worse, realizing I've forgotten a word and must now look it up in the larger glossary at the end. On the other hand, it's much more enjoyable than every other Old English textbook I've tried, because, unlike those others, it actually provides accessible reading practice. I suspect that working through Ōsweald Bera and then returning to a more traditional textbook would be much more effective, at least for me, than starting with the more traditional one.

[galaxyrocker]

I have my copy now and am five chapters in. It seems good enough, though I can't judge the quality of the Old English, but it's nowhere near as good as LLPSI. (That is not meant as a response to your statement, galaxyrocker, that it's "LLPSI-esque," since it certainly is.) It introduces many words without giving enough context to make their meaning clear, which means I'm constantly looking things up in the Old English to English chapter vocabularies or, worse, realizing I've forgotten a word and must now look it up in the larger glossary at the end. On the other hand, it's much more enjoyable than every other Old English textbook I've tried, because, unlike those others, it actually provides accessible reading practice. I suspect that working through Ōsweald Bera and then returning to a more traditional textbook would be much more effective, at least for me, than starting with the more traditional one.

Thanks for the review of this. I, sadly, haven't gotten my copy yet (Christmas gift, most likely), but am looking forward to it. I do think I agree it's a bit less 'immersion-only' than LLPSI, at least from what I've seen so far. I've watched a few of Gorrie's videos where he talks about the creation process, and it seems he wants you to read it several times, whereas LLPSI isn't supposed to be like this. I wonder if it'd be a good bridge between a textbook like Baker or Pollington and native texts. Since I've finished both of those, that's probably how I'll end up using it, and then moving on straight to some of the easier edited native texts hopefully.

[cito]

Ōsweald Bera, an LLPSi-esque book for Old English, is now available. Looking forward to getting my hands on a copy!

https://ancientlanguage.com/vergil-press/osweald-bera

I have my copy now and am five chapters in. It seems good enough, though I can't judge the quality of the Old English, but it's nowhere near as good as LLPSI. (That is not meant as a response to your statement, galaxyrocker, that it's "LLPSI-esque," since it certainly is.) It introduces many words without giving enough context to make their meaning clear, which means I'm constantly looking things up in the Old English to English chapter vocabularies or, worse, realizing I've forgotten a word and must now look it up in the larger glossary at the end. On the other hand, it's much more enjoyable than every other Old English textbook I've tried, because, unlike those others, it actually provides accessible reading practice. I suspect that working through Ōsweald Bera and then returning to a more traditional textbook would be much more effective, at least for me, than starting with the more traditional one.

I got it too. I'm only 3 chapters in but I've been enjoying it. Watching the author's videos about the textbook elucidates his intentions, which weren't to create an LLPSI equivalent. I'll admit that it's definitely not as well crafted as LLPSI, which took decades to make (vs the 3 years it took to write OB), but I believe it's more intended as a graded reader made to teach the reader Old English. I've found reading through each chapter once, trying to figure out through context what each word means, then slowly going through, referring to the glossary at the end of each chapter, and either writing the word definitions in the margins or making an anki card (often both, in my case) to then finally return for a third read-through has been most effective. It's a bit of a grind, but it helps move each chapter from intensive to "extensive" (-ish) reading.

So far I like it, but I'll do a full review on both my log and my Youtube channel once I finish it (in a couple of months).

[DaveAgain]

A concert I watched earlier mentioned that the carol "o come o come Emmanuel" has a latin origin in the "Antiphons", and that the latin original contains a subtle code. 10m20s into the video.

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In each of these antiphons we have been calling on Him to come to us, to come as Light as Key, as King, as God-with-us. Now, standing on the brink of Christmas Eve, looking back at the illuminated capital letters for each of the seven titles of Christ we would see an answer to our pleas : ERO CRAS the latin words meaning ‘Tomorrow I will come!”

https://malcolmguite.wordpress.com/2014 ... message-2/

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Notes on The 'O' Antiphons & Veni, Emmanuel

[Le Baron]

Some light relief. Everybody wants To Rule The World... sung in Latin. Don't forget to sing along.

[lichtrausch]

"Wenn ich mir den ersten Vers von Vergils Aeneis vornehme und ihn ausspreche als wäre es Deutsch [...], dann bin ich damit schon relativ nah am historischen Latein dran, zumindest näher als wenn ich ihn aussprechen würde als wäre es Französisch oder Englisch."