Dutch Study Group

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tungemål
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Re: Dutch Study Group

Postby tungemål » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:51 pm

Yes, the same in Norwegian. I still make de/het mistakes in Dutch.
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Re: Dutch Study Group

Postby Le Baron » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:51 pm

tungemål wrote:Yes, the same in Norwegian. I still make de/het mistakes in Dutch.

So do I! When In ask a Dutch person 'is it de or het?' Many stop first and then try it out with both to see which 'feels' right. Probably running through thousands of examples they've heard. It's usually the right answer.
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Re: Dutch Study Group

Postby tungemål » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:56 pm

Fun fact: some nouns in Norwegian haven't evolved any gender that is agreed upon. Maybe also in Dutch. For instance et/en kjeks (cookie).

Woord is neuter just like in Norwegian. But I don't get automatic transfer between the languages, maybe because Norwegian uses a system of noun declension (or suffix) instead of a definite article: het woord - ordet.

And the indefinite article doesn't show gender: een woord.
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Re: Dutch Study Group

Postby Le Baron » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:08 pm

Good one from Easy Dutch about language differences between north/south. 'Jeroen' talks a bit slow, but the girl speaks at a fairly regular tempo. tungemål can note two things here from previous discussions: that even though Jeroen says (correctly) that they have much more of a tendency in the south to pronounce final 'n', he doesn't always do it himself when speaking here; also the so-called 'Gooise R' is as you can you see a regional thing..which has been picked up in media world. Though most people don't use it.

Friet of patat? People here in Utrecht say both. Perhaps 'patat' more in reference to the thing, but when talking about the place you get them always tend to say: 'een friet'tent'.

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Re: Dutch Study Group

Postby tommus » Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:59 am

These Easy Dutch YouTube videos are well done and quite interesting.
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