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Re: Have you immigrated?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:15 am
by newyorkeric
I've been living in Singapore for most of the past 15 years. I moved here for family reasons (married a Singaporean). While I don't plan on moivng back to my home country (USA) and don't visit often, I always feel torn and inbetween. It gets harder with kids because I worry about what they're missing out on. In any case, they're fluent in English and Mandarin so there's that.

Re: Have you immigrated?

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:03 pm
by jimmy
Hi again,

Dear @Xenops,

could you let us know please , what did you decide?

also remind us please, where were you and where are you now?

if you immigrated, could you further inform , how was your journey and how are you?

(personal questions: I read the last comments and these questions came to my mind , you said you were looking for adventure, in this case: why did not you selected rather foreign country (e.g. India, saudi arabia etc :) )

so , generalization should be like this: are there rules that immigrants should strictly pay attention and adhere to when they are about to immigrate?

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Re: Have you immigrated?

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:42 pm
by Xenops
jimmy wrote:Hi again,

Dear @Xenops,

could you let us know please , what did you decide?

also remind us please, where were you and where are you now?

if you immigrated, could you further inform , how was your journey and how are you?

(personal questions: I read the last comments and these questions came to my mind , you said you were looking for adventure, in this case: why did not you selected rather foreign country (e.g. India, saudi arabia etc :) )


so , generalization should be like this: are there rules that immigrants should strictly pay attention and adhere to when they are about to immigrate?

Thanks for sharing your experiences.


The short answer is: I have not yet decided. :D

Realistically, as excited as I am to move overseas, I'm looking at at least two years before I can do so. In the short term, I started a new job and getting a sign-on bonus, so I have to stay a year. Long term, I would like to have my loans and credit card debt paid off before hand, maybe even have some money saved.

(personal questions: I read the last comments and these questions came to my mind , you said you were looking for adventure, in this case: why did not you selected rather foreign country (e.g. India, saudi arabia etc :) )


I have thought of going to Asia to teach ESL (specifically in Japan or South Korea) for a year or several, but I'm not sure if I would want to immigrate there. As a visiting ESL teacher, you get to enjoy the benefits of the host country while being free from the social constraints that the natives have. In Japan especially, they are so insular that they treat Japanese who lived abroad differently than "purely native" Japanese, never mind a Caucasian girl. Unless I happen to fall in love with a handsome Japanese or South Korean, I think it would be difficult to form ties as a foreigner in those places.

Europe is more likely for me because of the shared values. Unlike Japan, South Korea, India or Saudi Arabia, women can be independent and be treated equally to men in some European countries. In the four countries mentioned above, a woman's value and role is still very tied to a husband and to having a family. As a single woman who does not want kids, Europe seems a better fit. There's also an appreciation of work-life balance, less materialism, and more approachable healthcare systems, all of which I value. Lastly, there are lots of fellow Caucasians in Europe, so my ability to merge into the society is greater than in Japan.

So yes, if I was truly going for adventure, probably it would be short term and in Japan or South Korea. With moving to Europe, the adventure element is less, but I would be looking for a place that I want to live long-term.

Re: Have you immigrated?

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:13 pm
by jimmy
Now, once again i understand that crucial decisions require more time.

thank you very much for the reply.

Re: Have you immigrated?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:21 am
by Gaoling97
Not officially immigrated, yet. Not to be too inflamatory or political, but I hate the USA and wish to give up my citizenship one day.

I have lived in China for four years now. Wish I could get citizenship, but that is for all intents and purposes impossible. At best, I can get "permanent residency" after a while. Was planning to move to Germany in a few years (where it would actually be relatively easy to get citizenship), but I am not so sure anymore. While infinitely better than the US, Germany is still very much a western country with western values. Might just permanently stay in China as a non-citizen.

Re: Have you immigrated?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:00 am
by TSS42
Gaoling97 wrote:Not to be too inflamatory or political, but I hate the USA and wish to give up my citizenship one day.


Not to be too inflamatory or political, but then you go and be inflamatory and political anyway.