The Super Challenge - discussion thread 2016/2017

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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby sfuqua » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:55 pm

Outlander is translated into Spanish; you may be able to make it part of your challenge.

So far in my L2 reading, I do better when I read things in Spanish that I haven't gotten around to in English.
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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby jeffers » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:26 pm

geoffw wrote:Note: I also signed up for a North Germanic Challenge, for logging Norwegian and Danish (and who knows, maybe Icelandic or Old Icelandic). Unless people threaten to put me in cherem over it, I'm planning to log all of my Swedish against BOTH challenges.


Christina is away at the moment, but I'm pretty sure she would agree with Serpent. She has already stated that if you LR (listen in one target language and read in another) you have to choose which one to count (or count them both half). Counting the same task for two challenges is essentially the same thing.


geoffw wrote:I'm fine with being declared ineligible for the prize money for the winner of the North Germanic Family Super Challenge...


This statement got my goat. You know as well as anybody that there is no prize money, but the lack of prize money should not change the fact that you are taking part in a group event with rules which apply to everyone. It is as if you are saying that since there's no money involved you can do what you like. I know I've often behaved too much like a watchdog, but it's because I think that if we all start making our own rules then what's the point in doing it together? One of the reasons there are rules is to push you harder. Want to get more time logged for Swedish? Read or watch more Swedish.

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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby Kerrie » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:45 pm

LunaMoonsilver wrote:No, I feel you, I read the first Outlander book last week and I've been trying to work out what I want to do with the other six... I know I'm going to give in and read them (of course) but the question is simply when.


Other seven. There are eight now. :lol: You'll be able to find them in Spanish and German, if you want to use them for the SC. If you need help finding them, PM me. I actually read the first five of them in Spanish for the last SC. Of course, I had already read the first four a half dozen times before that, but . . . who's counting. :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby geoffw » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:59 pm

jeffers wrote:Christina is away at the moment, but I'm pretty sure she would agree with Serpent. She has already stated that if you LR (listen in one target language and read in another) you have to choose which one to count (or count them both half). Counting the same task for two challenges is essentially the same thing.

geoffw wrote:I'm fine with being declared ineligible for the prize money for the winner of the North Germanic Family Super Challenge...


This statement got my goat. You know as well as anybody that there is no prize money, but the lack of prize money should not change the fact that you are taking part in a group event with rules which apply to everyone. It is as if you are saying that since there's no money involved you can do what you like. I know I've often behaved too much like a watchdog, but it's because I think that if we all start making our own rules then what's the point in doing it together? One of the reasons there are rules is to push you harder. Want to get more time logged for Swedish? Read or watch more Swedish.

Woof!


Ok, fine, forget it. If THIS is how people are going to act when we try to figure out how best to implement a new idea (i.e., "families," "approved" by the person officially in charge, btw, but yet to be implemented in practice), then I have better ways to spend my life. Rdearman had basically apologized for the fact that the bot didn't automatically "roll-up" language postings into the family, as I understood it. I was proposing to manually do what it sounded like he considered trying to do automatically--and announcing as much to invite constructive comments (like Serpent's).

And I get someone jumping down my throat and accusing me of being a lazy cheater or something. What the hell?

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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby Anya » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:21 pm

I've signed up for:

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Language: Chinese
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Language: Family Greek (Ancient and Modern Greek)
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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby Brun Ugle » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:33 pm

Kerrie wrote:
LunaMoonsilver wrote:No, I feel you, I read the first Outlander book last week and I've been trying to work out what I want to do with the other six... I know I'm going to give in and read them (of course) but the question is simply when.


Other seven. There are eight now. :lol: You'll be able to find them in Spanish and German, if you want to use them for the SC. If you need help finding them, PM me. I actually read the first five of them in Spanish for the last SC. Of course, I had already read the first four a half dozen times before that, but . . . who's counting. :lol: :lol:


Are those the books about time traveling in Scotland? I remember reading them way back in the early nineties, it I guess there are a lot more now. Maybe I should try a few in Spanish or German for the SC too.
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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby Kerrie » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:43 pm

Brun Ugle wrote:
LunaMoonsilver wrote:No, I feel you, I read the first Outlander book last week and I've been trying to work out what I want to do with the other six... I know I'm going to give in and read them (of course) but the question is simply when.


Are those the books about time traveling in Scotland? I remember reading them way back in the early nineties, it I guess there are a lot more now. Maybe I should try a few in Spanish or German for the SC too.


Yes, same ones. It's also a TV show now - they're on the second season/book. The first book was published in the early 90s. :D
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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby sfuqua » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:44 pm

My wife adores Outlander. Maybe I should do them in Spanish too :)
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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby Montmorency » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:45 pm

jeffers wrote:
geoffw wrote:Note: I also signed up for a North Germanic Challenge, for logging Norwegian and Danish (and who knows, maybe Icelandic or Old Icelandic). Unless people threaten to put me in cherem over it, I'm planning to log all of my Swedish against BOTH challenges.


Christina is away at the moment, but I'm pretty sure she would agree with Serpent. She has already stated that if you LR (listen in one target language and read in another) you have to choose which one to count (or count them both half). Counting the same task for two challenges is essentially the same thing.


I haven't seen Cristina's words on the subject, but that's not the way I interpreted rdearman's response to my question about L-R:
If I read in Norwegian, and listen in Norwegian, then fine, I can see that should only count as one thing, i.e. either a book, or audio, but not both. However, if I read in Norwegian and listen in German (neither of which is my native language, and both of which are registered for the SC for me), then I'd think there would be a good case for counting both. As it happens, that would be a rather academic question in this case, since I have no intention of doing it (I want to get in as much Norwegian listening as I can). But it might be something to run by Cristina when she is next around and has time to answer. (Until then, it can certainly wait, as far as I am concerned).


geoffw wrote:I'm fine with being declared ineligible for the prize money for the winner of the North Germanic Family Super Challenge...


jeffers wrote:This statement got my goat. You know as well as anybody that there is no prize money, but the lack of prize money should not change the fact that you are taking part in a group event with rules which apply to everyone. It is as if you are saying that since there's no money involved you can do what you like. I know I've often behaved too much like a watchdog, but it's because I think that if we all start making our own rules then what's the point in doing it together? One of the reasons there are rules is to push you harder. Want to get more time logged for Swedish? Read or watch more Swedish.

Woof!


Humour bypass? Geoffw was clearly joking wasn't he?
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Re: The Super Challenge - discussion thread

Postby Kerrie » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:56 pm

Montmorency wrote:I haven't seen Cristina's words on the subject, but that's not the way I interpreted rdearman's response to my question about L-R:
If I read in Norwegian, and listen in Norwegian, then fine, I can see that should only count as one thing, i.e. either a book, or audio, but not both. However, if I read in Norwegian and listen in German (neither of which is my native language, and both of which are registered for the SC for me), then I'd think there would be a good case for counting both. As it happens, that would be a rather academic question in this case, since I have no intention of doing it (I want to get in as much Norwegian listening as I can). But it might be something to run by Cristina when she is next around and has time to answer. (Until then, it can certainly wait, as far as I am concerned).


This was discussed to death in the past. You can only count it for one or the other, not both. It's in one of the SC threads at the old site.
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