The Super Challenge - rules

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The Super Challenge - rules

Postby Solfrid Cristin » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:25 am

Hi, a reminder to you all of how this works :-)

The Super Challenge 2014-15 started on the 1st of May 2014 and ends on 31st of December 2015.

The 2014-15 challenge entails:

- 100 films (90 minutes each)
- 100 books (50 pages each)
- in 20 months


- You can do half a Super Challenge which would entail 50 books, 50 films
- Instead of one full Super Challenge in one language, you can also do two (or more) half Super Challenges,
and decide how you want to combine them.

To register, you state:

LANGUAGE:

CHALLENGE: ( FULL, HALF)

CURRENT LEVEL:

COMMENTS: Any comments you feel like adding as to your reasons for choice of language, type of
challenge or material or your expectations for the outcome.

ONCE YOU HAVE REGISTERED HERE, PLEASE ALSO REGISTER ON THE TWITTER BOT (Link will be
provided later)

Those of you who will use your TAC logs, or who have created own logs for this particular challenge are
welcome to link to them as well.


OBS: PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS THE THREAD FOR REGISTERING AND UPDATING YOUR
ACHIEVEMENTS AND FOR GIVING ENCOURAGEMENTS TO YOU FELLOW SUPER CHALLENGERS
ONLY.

I will at some point make a new Super Challenge total reference thread. For discussions about the rules or
the interpretations of them, please go to the Super Challenge discussion thread.



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If you are a beginner, you can start with the films. And it counts even if you see it with subtitles in your own
language, or even if you see the film in your own language but with TL subtitles. If both subtitles and audio is
in a foreign language you have to choose which language you want to count. If you want both to count you
simply see it twice. The same goes for listening/reading.

If you start out with the 100 films this year, I am sure you will be able to do the 100 books next year.

If you just have 5 books and 5 films then your read them 20 times. Though my guess is that by the time you
have read/seen them 5 times, you WILL get other films or books.

So the exact rules would be the following:
- Every film counts as long as they have at least voice or subtitles in the TL
- If it lasts approximately 45 minutes (a show/series) it counts as half a film. If it lasts for more than three
hours it counts as two films. I think the bot counts 90 minutes for a film.
- If you want to use podcasts or audiobooks, 1 hour and a half is the equivalence of 1 film.
- Every book counts. And 50 pages is considered one book, which means that if you read a real book of 500
pages, you have already read 10 of your 100 books!
- You can do fiction or any other material – a documentary on whales, or a book about gardening works just
as well as a novel.
- You can see the same films/read the same books again and again
- With parallel books you count the pages in your TL – minimum 50 pages to make it count as a book.
- A manga counts as 5 manga pages = 1 book page.
- Poetry/librettos count as 1/3 of a page
- A children's book with large letters, pictures and few words on every page you count 5 pages as one page.
If that seems unfair use your best judgment.

- You can be at any level when the challenge starts.
- The material covered for this challenge can be counted and done in parallel with both the 6WC and the
Tadoku challenge (so if you participate in all three you could at one point count the same book three times
- If you want to join later than May1st 2014 you are welcome to do so.
- If you do L-R it is up to you whether you want to count it as reading (in which case 50 pages would count as
one book) or if you want to count it as film, in which case 1 hour and a half would count as one film.


But the most important thing about this particular challenge, is that you do this for yourself, and any material
you cover which you would not have covered had you not participated in this challenge – means success.



So ladies, gentlemen and minors: let not the best man win: Let as many
of us as possible win

And here is the Twitter Bot:

http://www.languagechallenge.surrealix.com/
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby Soffía » Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:55 pm

OK! Thought I'd sign up over here after all...

LANGUAGE: Icelandic

CHALLENGE: Half

CURRENT LEVEL: B1+ (reading)

COMMENTS: So far I've read a little over 500 pages in Icelandic. I just got back from Iceland with a stack of new books and renewed enthusiasm, so I'm hoping that this will help to convert my tenuous foothold in Icelandic literacy into something more natural and substantial. It'll be a great adventure in any case...
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby samfrances » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:43 pm

Do magazines like Punto y Coma count?
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby rdearman » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:52 pm

samfrances wrote:Do magazines like Punto y Coma count?


I believe all reading counts, basically you need to total up the words on the page and 250 words count as a page.
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby Serpent » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:35 pm

That's an audio magazine, though...

does it resemble anything on the chart? Is it L2 only?

We need to wait until Cristina is back from Siberia I guess...
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby samfrances » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:25 pm

rdearman wrote:
samfrances wrote:Do magazines like Punto y Coma count?


I believe all reading counts, basically you need to total up the words on the page and 250 words count as a page.


Thanks rdearman.

Serpent wrote:That's an audio magazine, though...

does it resemble anything on the chart? Is it L2 only?

We need to wait until Cristina is back from Siberia I guess...


It's only an audio magazine in the sense that there is an accompanying CD with recordings of all the articles. You can still read it like an ordinary print magazine if you want to.
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby galaxyrocker » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:40 pm

I really wish I had found out about this before it started last time. I think I'm going to start on this come January. Until then, just going to keep working as hard as I can on what I've got.
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby Serpent » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:23 am

So far it started in May both times :)))
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby rdearman » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:49 am

serpent wrote:
galaxyrocker wrote:I really wish I had found out about this before it started last time. I think I'm going to start on this come January. Until then, just going to keep working as hard as I can on what I've got.

So far it started in May both times :)))


This is because people need a rest after all those books and films!
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Re: The Super Challenge - rules

Postby emk » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:26 pm

Solfrid Cristin wrote:- A manga counts as 5 manga pages = 1 book page.

I'm not participating in the Super Challenge this year, and in any case, I don't make the rules. :-)

But just as data point, during the first Super Challenge, I spent several hours flipping through my collection of French bandes dessinées (oversize graphic novels, basically), and counting the number of words per page. I concluded that 5 pages of a typical BD had the same amount of text as 2 or 3 pages of a typical adult paperback. Those huge format pages filled with speech balloons added up quicker than I expected.

Anyway, I hope this data point might be useful to somebody. Feel free to ignore it if you've already found another solution. :-)
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