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The 2022 365 Day Challenge - Rules, Sign Up and Discussion

Postby rdearman » Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:33 pm

Just a copy of last years rules. I'll kick this off since Peter isn't going to participate this year. I got bored with changing all the dates in the examples, so if you have a question just ask someone, it isn't that difficult. It starts on 1st of January, you're trying to score 365 by studying every day.

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Link to the scoring thread here: The 2022 365 Day Challenge - SCORING
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The 2022 365 Day Challenge Rules

Main principle of the challenge:
1. Choose one or more languages to study every single day for a year with a minimum requirement of 30 minutes per day.


Start and end dates:
1. The competition start date is 1st January, 2022, but will extend out for late-comers to February 1st, 2022. The end date comes after 365 days of study, so if you begin studying on Jan 1st 2021, your last day of study is 31st Dec 2021. If you begin studying on February 1st, 2022, your last date of study will be January 31st, 2023.

2. Those who begin later than 1st of January 2022, but before the cut off date of February 1st, 2022, must finish after 365 days of study, so if you begin on Jan 20th 2022, your last day of study will be Jan 19th 2023.

3. You can start after the 1st of February, 2022, but you must finish on the 31st Jan 2023. Therefore, you can still participate, you just won't be participating for a full year.

4. If you post that you want to join the challenge on a date earlier than your post, you can do so. For example if it's February 17th and you post that you want to join but your start date is January the 21st, this is acceptable. If you have studied every day since January 21st the same language(s) you are announcing to participate with and you have been completing 30 minutes a day for your language(s), then there are no penalties. If you have missed days, then the usual penalties apply from your back-dated commencement date (in this case January 21st).

As a reminder, if your official start date is between Jan 1st 2022 and February 1st, 2022, your finish date will be after 365 days of study (if you take one day off the same date the following year - eg. you first day of study is Jan 27th 2022, then your last day of study will be on Jan 26th 2023) However if you sign up for a commencement date after February 1st, 2022, the latest possible competition end date remains Jan 31st 2023, so the competition will not be a full year for such competitors.

There is no limit set on retrospective start dates, that is how far back your start date can be before you officially entered the challenge. This is done to aid those who discover the challenge late or realise they want to join late but have already been studying 30 minutes or more daily in their target language(s). Provided you were studying on those days since your announced start date, that is fine.

However it's not very transparant to lurk deliberately and jump on in much later to surprise your fellow competitors that you have been kicking butt in the background but nobody knew it as you deliberately had not joined officially. Therefore it is encouraged that you officially join as soon as you intend to take part.


Time required to study each day:
1. 30 minutes per day minimum of language study for each of your announced chosen language(s)...
...and/or 30 minutes per day minimum of language study for each 'generic study block' which allows for learning a combination of pre-announced (by the competitor) languages without having to necessarily study all of your announced languages every day, just so long as you meet the minimum time requirements of 30 minutes for the block. (see The 'generic’ option, below for further details).

2. Daily study does not have to be completed somewhere between 12.01am in the morning and 11:59 pm in the eveing, as long as it's before your longer period of sleep except in special circumstances (see 3 below). Your usual routine might be to sleep at 2 or 3am every night, and this needs to be accounted for. So if it's normal for you to study at 1am before you go to sleep, this is acceptable even if you joined on January 1st and therefore should finish on December 31st - in this case your last study block might be 1am after midnight on December 31st (i.e. the 1st of Jan).... In fact even if this isn't your normal pattern, the main deciding factor as that you study before your main block of sleep.

Thus if you're struggling to get your study done one day and you find it's past midnight for whatever reason, that does not mean you have missed a day. Not asleep yet? Study now before you sleep and you've rescued your situation!

You may have even fallen asleep after midnight, realised you've not completed your study upon waking after a short period of sleep, then gone ahead and completed it, say from 2am - 2.30am, and then returned to sleeping for a lengthy (longer) period. As long as the study is completed before your main block of sleep.

3. There is an exception to the above ‘before your main block of sleep rule’. That is, let’s say you studied Saturday afternoon, or even in the evening, didn’t go to sleep (or perhaps slept a very little amount) until early Sunday afternoon when you slept properly or for a lengthier period, but before your longer sleep you also studied at 10am on Sunday prior to that Sunday afternoon sleep, for example. To clarify. You studied Saturday afternoon/evening did not sleep (or very little overnight), studied again Sunday morning, slept Sunday afternoon. Thus there’s no main block of sleep between the two study sessions.

Such studying is not encouraged, but if you struggle with insomnia, poor sleep patterns, or need to arrange studying around night shifts for example (before you go to work Sat evening, post coming hope Sunday morning), this is perfectly understandable and acceptable. Be reasonable and fair with yourself and if unsure request some feedback.

However, if you’re watching a movie from 23.00hrs Saturday night and continue from 00.00hrs to 00.30hrs on Sunday morning, this is really pushing the rules and simply not accepted. Your study sessions should be distinctly apart from each other (by a number of hours preferably) if you cannot sleep between them, but they still must be on separate days, and you must have a fair reason for such study methods. In the end use your own judgement, or if unsure seek some feedback.

4. Studying 30 minutes per day does not have to be in one continuous block. As long as you reach a total of 30 minutes minimum (you can do more if you like).

5. More than 30 minutes learning a day is fine, but the minimum requirement is 30 minutes, so no double, triple challenges. You can opt to do as much as you like (I'll personally be aiming for more), but for this challenge it's just 30 minutes you need, beyond that is your own business, since the idea is to develop a super strong habit of unbroken daily study - it's not to chase study hours per sé (although, sure, more time on task is better), the aim is to create consistent effort every day of the year, or as close to that mark as possible.

6. Studying 29 minutes (or less) is not acceptable. You can't make up that minute or few minutes the next day. That's a missed day, pure and simple.

7.There’s no loss of time for any narration/instructions in a langauge other than your target (announced) language(s) (excluding TV, see paragraph below). For example a French course with lots of English instructions, bilingual dictionaries, a podcast with loads of English narration. If you do an hour of ‘French’ and you’ve been going over detailed grammatical explanations or introductory background of a course and it’s all in English, it still counts for your French study session, as that’s what you’re reading about, and using, content to learn your target language.

However, when counting movies and or series you must count only the time you hear or read (subtitles) in your target language(s) you are counting towards this competition. This doesn’t mean you have to eliminate short pauses in dialogue (a long pause of many minutes is different- use your own judgement), but a movie in Mandarin and Korean with 20 minutes of Mandarin and 90 minutes of Korean can only count as 20 minutes of Mandarin learning if Mandarin is your target language (unless of course you’re learning both languages, in which case you can also count 90 minutes of Korean study). What you can’t do is count 110 minutes for Korean or 110 minutes for Mandarin.

If you’re using a TV-like program to study with, such as Yabla, then if you learn German as your target language with Yabla for 30 minutes and again there’s lots of English instructions, translations and ‘guidance’, then it still counts as 30 minutes of German study.


What constitutes as acceptable study/learning?
1. As long as you are doing an activity in which you feel you are learning, then it is acceptable. In other words, if speaking is how you want to spend your learning/study time, then that's fine (provided it's not something that comes so easy to you that you're not really learning much at all- be honest with yourself and this challenge). So, yes you can read, watch, speak, use grammar books, whatever. As long as you are learning!

2. You do not have to do the same type of activity every day or even within one day. Do what you like/want. The idea here is to stay motivated, so stay in the game using whatever keeps you engaged with the language. Use grammar books but you're now on holiday? Read something, speak to people in your TL if you're on location. Just ensure you're learning and you're meeting the minimum requirement of 30 minutes/day.


Other language competitions/challenges:
1. Study/learning time can overlap with any other language challenges (eg Super Challenge, 6 week challenge, Output Challenge). 30 minutes of reading for example which equates to x nbr of pages for the SC can definitely be seen as your daily requirement. Speaking out loud for language exchanges to add to the Output Challenge? Again - are you learning? (or at least trying to learn ;) - we don't always actually appear to have learned much, but if you're trying that's fine), it counts for this challenge.


Requirements for competitors in this or other threads :
1. Announce your intention to join here in this thread, for which language(s), and your start date.

2. You do not need a reply from me or anyone else of your announced intentions before you can start. Start on the date you announce and at some point you will appear on the List of Competitors with your announced start date. I say this in case of my absence.

3. It is encouraged that you announce when you fail to study in The 2021 365 Day Language Challenge - SCORING thread and deduct the days accordingly. Although this can simply be done at the end of the month scoring (see below).

4. If you wish to withdraw (at any time), please announce it in this thread or The 2021 365 Day Language Challenge - SCORING thread.

5. If you withdraw after a string of missed days, and are wanting to calculate and provide your final score, calculate only up to your last day of study. For example, you have a score of 10 on January the 10th, with no missed days, then miss 2 days and decide to withdraw on day 13, your final score will be 10. Missed days will not be counted post your last day of study even if you decide to withdraw some days later. Thus according to the above example, your final score would be 10, not 8 (10 - 2 missed days, i.e. 10 - 2) for the 2 days you missed before deciding to withdraw.

6. To keep track of scoring, a monthly update of contenders and their 'scores' can be found in the thread: The 2021 365 Day Language Challenge - SCORING.

7. At the end of each month each person should announce their score for the month and their overall score (so keep track of your own scoring!) in the scoring thread. The second person to do so should copy the first person, so that the second person’s score is listed with the first person's (and placed in the correct position, so it works as a leaderboard). The third person copies the first two and adds themself and their scores, and the fourth copies the first three and adds themself and their scores, and so on.

8. When announcing your monthly scores in the list of competitors please include your username, language(s) studied, scores for each language and ensure you adjust the scores and show why you have done so. Example:

January: PeterMollenburg, French 30 points (missed one day)

February: Petermollenburg, French 25 points (missed 3 days). Year total: 55 points


Studying more than one language each day:
1. There are two options for studying more than one language -
*30 minutes a day per language, or
*generic, which means 30 minutes of any language (see 'generic' option further down - more than 30 minutes of 'generic' is possible).


The 'generic' option:
1. You can opt to join with 'generic' language if you cannot foresee being able to study your chosen languages (plural) every day (30 minutes each), for example, or perhaps you want to study one language for a while then swap to another later in the year (and not have to do both all year).

2. Choosing 'generic', like choosing one specific language, means that it's one 30 min block each day of study that's required, you just happen to be changing languages (either within the same day or not - you could study one for months and then change to another later in the year for example, or study 10 minutes of three languages in a day).

To clarify, if you specifically choose two separate languages (not generic), Say German and French, then it's one hour a day (30 min of each language), not 30 min of any, as would be the case with 'generic'. Thus, generic is choosing to study a mixture of languages as per the 30 minute minimum (30 minutes total), while stated specific languages are studied separately 30 minutes each per day.

3. You can choose a language twice if you have it within a generic group and as an individual language as well. So if you have Spanish and Generic x 1, you would have to study Spanish 30 minutes a day and all your other languages (including Spanish as well) within you generic group of languages, so it might look something like this on a daily basis: 30 minutes of Spanish + 30 minutes of any of the following: Spanish, French, Russian, Swahili.

4. You can change at any point during the competition and go from generic to specific languages or specific languages to generic. See the section Adding languages, removing languages, not studying languages for long periods, dropping out (of one language or altogether) or changing study 'modes' below on how to go about this.

5. Those who choose generic are encouraged to announce their languages up front of the competition but it is not obligatory.

6. You can join for more than one block of generic. Why? Well you may want to challenge yourself to get an hour of study done each day, or 90 minutes, for example, since you could be studying 10 languages at once, all of which are very important to you.

If you join with 2 blocks of generic, you must study 60 minutes per day of your mixture of languages. If you join with 3 blocks you must study 90 minutes per day.

7. You can join for 'generic' and (an)other language(s). Eg. I want to join for 'generic' because I will be studying Spanish over summer and then later on I'll be in Russia, so i'll be switching to Russian. I also want to study French throughout the year, so I want to join for 'generic' and 'French'. This equates to 1 hour of study a day throughout the year (30 min for generic comprising of two languages and 30 min for French).


Scoring:
1. One day of study = 1 day/point

2. At the end of each month each person should post their score for the month and their overall score (so keep track of your own scoring!) including days missed (so that your calculations can be verified) in The 2021 365 Day Challenge SCORING thread.

Please be honest.

To make it easier for reference and editing, you should also include your username and languages being studied. Remember to minus 1 points/day for each missed day. Examples:

January:
PeterMollenburg, French 30 points (missed one day)

February:
Petermollenburg, French 25 points (missed 3 days). Year total: 55 points

4. Missed days and scoring calculations:
Simple: 1 missed day = 1 missed day. Call it points if you like. You study 30 days out of 31 in January, you score 30 points.

5. If you withdraw after a string of missed days, and are wanting to calculate and provide your final score, calculate only up to your last day of study. For example, you have a score of 10 on January the 10th, 2019, with no missed days, then miss 2 days and decide to withdraw on day 13, your final score will be 10. Missed days will not be counted post your last day of study even if you decide to withdraw some days later.

6. If you did not start on the first of the month, I'd still prefer you to post you scores at the end of each month (with a reminder of your start date), as it's easier to keep track of all competitors on an end of month basis.

7. The second person to post their score(s) should copy the first person, so that the second person’s score is listed with the first (and placed in the correct position, so it works as a leaderboard). The third person copies the first two and adds themself and their scores, and the fourth copies the first three and adds themself and their scores, and so on.

8. If you have announced you’ll be studying/learning more than one language (and not as the ‘generic’ option) for this challenge, keep your scoring separate for each language, as some days you could miss one language, but not the other(s).

9. If you’ve chosen ‘generic’ and a dedicated sole language (eg generic and Japanese), keep your scoring for Japanese and generic apart, since as with the previous point above you might not study any languages from your generic block of 30 minutes one day but do manage to complete your 30 minutes of Japanese study. Thus, the penalty would only apply to ‘generic’ and not Japanese.

10. In my absence, someone else who has been nominated to keep scores may do so.

In the absence of anyone else having been nominated, then it's open for others participants or otherwise to present the monthly scoring.

If I am absent for long periods of time, and scoring is in an apparent mess do not fret, the challenge goes on! Just keep a record of your own scores, so when I (or someone else) tallies everything up, we have all we need. If someone does not post for long periods it will be assumed they have dropped out, but of course, if they haven't and they return, no drama (I'd just be wondering where the hell you got to ! ;) )


Exceptions to missing days of study:
1. The only possible exception to studying every single day, is if you lose a day flying crossing the international date line, in which case, you can either add one day to your finish date, or do two days worth of study while travelling. Be reasonable, if you're just flying for a heck of a long period of time, this doesn't constitute actually losing a day. You can study in flight.

2. If you withdraw after a string of missed days, and are wanting to calculate and provide your final score, calculate only up to your last day of study. For example, you have a score of 10 on January the 10th, 2019, with no missed days, then miss 2 days and decide to withdraw on day 13, your final score will be 10. Missed days will not be counted post your last day of study even if you decide to withdraw some days later.


Penalties:
1. If you skip a day, you lose 1 day/point.

2. If you withdraw after a string of missed days, and are wanting to calculate and provide your final score, calculate only up to your last day of study. For example, you have a score of 10 on January the 10th, 2019, with no missed days, then miss 2 days and decide to withdraw on day 13, your final score will be 10. Missed days will not be counted post your last day of study even if you decide to withdraw some days later.

3. Studying 29 minutes (or less) is not acceptable. You can't make up that minute or few minutes the next day. That's a fail - loss of 1 day (see 'penalties' below)

4. If studying more than one language and you have announced it as such at the beginning of the challenge, such as French and German, which is a total of 60 minutes study per day (30 min each) and you miss a day for all of them, deduct 1 day/point for each language missed, since scoring for each language is separate. For the ‘generic’ option and missed days, read further below.

5. If studying more than one language, and you miss a day, but not with all your languages, you’re only penalised for the languages you’ve not studied that day. Thus you will have separate scores for each of your languages. Therefore, it’s advisable to study your languages each day in order of priority on any given day. This isn’t a rule, just advice, as it would be a shame to be penalised for missing days with your priority language(s) while you remain unscathed regarding less important languages.

6. If you’ve chosen ‘generic’ and a dedicated sole language (eg generic and Japanese), keep your scoring for Japanese and generic apart, since as you might not study any languages from your generic block of 30 minutes one day but do manage to complete your 30 minutes of Japanese study. Thus, the penalty of 1 day/point would only apply to ‘generic’ and not to Japanese.

7. For those studying multiple blocks of generic and missing some of your studying on a given day, but not all-
Example; If you have joined with generic x 3 blocks and one day you only get one block (i.e. 30 minutes) completed, you will be penalised 2 days.


Adding languages, removing languages, not studying languages for long periods, dropping out (of one language or altogether) or changing study 'modes'
1. There are no penalties for such changes.

2. As with joining the competition for the first time, you may add (a) new language(s) after the initial start date of January 1st 2019 at any point of the competition.

The initial start date is January 1st 2021, but you can still join the competition for the first time or add a new language for a full year of the competition up to the cut off date of February 1st, 2021. If you add a new language between January 1st and February 1st, 2021, your end date for the newly added language(s) would be one year from your start date. Thus, you may have different end dates for your languages if you had commenced with (an)other language(s) earlier.

3. If you want to add a new language later than February 1st, 2021, then your end date remains January 31st 2022 no matter when you started after February 1st, 2021. The reasoning here is that there needs to be a fair end-date for everyone in the competition, thus a cut-off date avoids a never-ending competition, and if all competitors have finished by January 31st 2022, this facilitates the competition drawing to a close.

4. You are free to remove languages from your list.

5. If you do not study a language on your list, there's no consequence apart from the fact that the days you have not studied the language, if numerous, will soon see your score plumet. If you are not interested in continuing with the language (or the competition), please advise so and it will be noted on the competitors list.

6. There is no penalty for adding or removing languages with the generic option of study either.

7. Please announce any changes to your list of languages (including those who study using the generic option)

8. If you want to change from generic study to individual languages, you must do your best to calculate, honestly, roughly how much time you spent up to the date of change studying each language and convert it to individual scores.

Example. You were studying French and Spanish, you're on day 100. You studied French 60% of the time and Spanish 40% of the time (no need to be too technical, a fair estimate will suffice). Your generic score (you hadn't missed a single day) on day 100 was 100. On day 100 your French score is calculated to be 60 and your Spanish score, 40. You then must go on to study 30 minutes a day of each of your two languages (1 hour total).

Example 2. Same as above, but you only want to continue with French (and drop Spanish altogether). Your French score is again 60 at day 100.

Example 3. You did Norwegian for 3 months and Japanese for 1 month, you now want to study them individually and add Danish. You begin day 101 before studying with a score of 75 for Norwegian, 25 for Japanese and 0 for Danish. You must now do 3 blocks of 30 minutes of study a day for each language.

9. If you want to change from individual languages to generic.
Example. You are learning two languages - Korean and Irish. It is day 100. You have missed three days for Korean (100 - 3 = 97) and one day for Welsh (100 - 1 = 99). You want to combine both languages into one block of generic study. Add both language scores together and divide by the number of languages. Thus 97 + 99 = 196. 196/2 = 98.

10. If you withdraw after a string of missed days, and are wanting to calculate and provide your final score, calculate only up to your last day of study. For example, you have a score of 10 on January the 10th, 2019, with no missed days, then miss 2 days and decide to withdraw on day 13, your final score will be 10. Missed days will not be counted post your last day of study even if you decide to withdraw some days later.


Elimination:
1. You won't be eliminated for continually missing days, but your score will look dismal and obviously be of no threat to others in terms of 'winning'.


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Postby Radioclare » Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:44 pm

Thanks for kicking the thread off, rdearman :)

I'll sign up again, for a Russian challenge starting 1 Jan.
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Postby Cerebral_Arbitrage » Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:59 pm

Yes, thanks for setting this up! I'm going to start January 1st too in Spanish.
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Postby rdearman » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:35 pm

I actually forgot to sign myself up!

I'm going to sign up for "generic" because I plan to focus completely on Korean until my trip (or until Covid cancels it. :cry: ) then I'll decide if I'm going to stick with Korean or return to Mandarin, French or Italian.
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Re: The 2022 365 Day Challenge - Rules, Sign Up and Discussion

Postby PeterMollenburg » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:57 am

rdearman wrote:Just a copy of last years rules. I'll kick this off since Peter isn't going to participate this year.


First of all, thank you kindly rdearman for taking over.

You're not quite right on your statement however. I definitely had/have no intention of organising the challenge in 2022, but I do indeed want to participate, albeit in a fashion.

I want to join for French.

There's a catch though that kind of goes a little against the rules. I don't anticipate being that reliable on reporting my scoring, in fact I might not report at all each month until the end, so if you're willing to accept my participation based on me largely being absent yet assuming I'm studying every single day without fail, then I'm in! I at least promise to report in December 2022 my scores for the entire year. Is this acceptable?

Why do I want to do this? I'm afraid of logging into the forum and getting distracted. I really want to remain super focused and report at the very end only. Of course I might change my mind on this, but if you're aware up front and are okay... then.. bla bla bla
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Postby lingua » Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:11 am

I'm in for German for 2022 starting on the first day of January.
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Postby zenmonkey » Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:54 pm

Sigh, I shouldn't sign up for challenges, they are like New Year's resolutions for me! But I'm forever the optimist, so here goes.

Generic - starting January 1st.

I'll actually be working on Persian (A0) as my core focus for at least 6 months. Yiddish and Hebrew (my failed but active study languages from 2021 and 2020). German (B2) but I want to keep active. Portuguese, my love, for which I'd somehow I'd like to activate my speaking.

So 30 min a day minimum in any of those sounds doable but who knows....

Not a study language but I'm likely to work on building material for it (probably going to use one of the Peace Corps modules as a framework)...
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Postby Vordhosbn » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:33 am

Thank you to everyone involved in setting these up year after year! This will be my first ever public challenge. Please sign me up for Georgian, starting January 1.
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Re: The 2022 365 Day Challenge - Rules, Sign Up and Discussion

Postby vegantraveller » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:29 pm

Hello everybody,

I’m in for
- Japanese
- Generic (European language)
Both starting 1st January

Thanks!
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I'm a man from Italy, not an owl from Japan :mrgreen:

Please correct my errors!

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Re: The 2022 365 Day Challenge - Rules, Sign Up and Discussion

Postby MisterVimes » Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:11 pm

Oh man, I'm gonna sign up, aren't I... Challenges like this don't tend to go well for me, but 30 minutes a day seems doable.

Sign me up for Hebrew, starting Jan 1st.
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