Super Challenge: questions and discussion

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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby jeffers » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:40 pm

I haven't posted on Twitter for a long time. I've dropped Hindi and German for the time being, but I'm still chipping away at French. Of course I'm behind on both books and films, but I'm still determined that "this time" is the time I'll complete a full challenge. :lol:

Expect a flurry of Twitter updates sometime "soon".
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby rdearman » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:42 pm

lingua wrote:I'm still posting via Twitter but I keep half expecting it to eventually die since someone doesn't like bots.

I keep thinking I should update the bot to support Mastodon ... next lifetime maybe.
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby Herodotean » Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:15 pm

I'm about 500 pages behind in reading for each of my two SCs (Latin and Greek). It's still doable, though, at 10 pages a day for each. I stopped trying to hit the audio target early on.
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby CDR » Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:04 pm

Does the Super Challenge bot use the public/free Twitter API? Twitter is shutting down the API on the 9th. :cry: to move to a paid model only. They have not released a price structure yet.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/01/twitter-to-end-free-access-to-its-api/

This also ruins the scripts I made that tweet out the stuff I read/watched in a day :cry:
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby rdearman » Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:18 pm

CDR wrote:Does the Super Challenge bot use the public/free Twitter API? Twitter is shutting down the API on the 9th. :cry: to move to a paid model only. They have not released a price structure yet.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/01/twitter-to-end-free-access-to-its-api/

This also ruins the scripts I made that tweet out the stuff I read/watched in a day :cry:

Yes, this will cause a problem. I was putting off converting it all to a mastodon script. Guess Elon is going to force me to do some programming. :evil:
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby rdearman » Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:32 am

OK, the twitter dev thread has announced:

A new form of free access will be introduced as this is extremely important to our ecosystem – limited to Tweet creation of up to 1,500 Tweets per month for a single authenticated user token, including Login with Twitter.


I'm not really sure how many tweets the SuperChallenge bot makes but I suspect it is well under 1,500 per month. I'm not sure what happens if you go over, I suspect it just doesn't allow you to send a tweet. Which for our purposes is not a problem since all that would happen is you wouldn't get a tweet showing it was processed, but it should still show on your stats.

Meanwhile, I have sunk a huge amount of time in a Python IMAP email reporting system that it looks like I'm not going to need. :evil: :ugeek: But I will post the code to GitHub, and take a little more time working on it to make sure that it performs correctly and do a lot of testing. It was going to be a super quick hack to get us through the end of the year. I'll continue to work on this, just in case Elon changes direction again and then you'll have two ways to report your statistics.

EDIT: The github page is here: https://github.com/rdearman/GenericChallenge if you're interested.
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby rdearman » Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:07 pm

I have been working on an email alternative to the SC Twitter reporting. I would like a couple of volunteers to send in their scores via email for a couple of days? This system is pointed toward a test database that I have set up, so it will not let you update your scores. Volunteers would need to post both an email (into a test system) and a Twitter message (to update your actual score). If you are willing to help for 2–3 days, please send me a PM, and I'll give you the email address and the instructions you'll need to follow. In addition, if anyone has a mastodon account, I will be looking for volunteers shortly on that system as well.

Anyone who is familiar with github, MySQL and python are more than welcome to assist in the creation of a new "multiple challenge" system. The github page is here: https://github.com/rdearman/GenericChallenge
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby newpotato » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:39 pm

Hi all,

It seems that the langchallenge bot has stopped replying to my tweets, is anyone able to help me work out what's going on?

https://twitter.com/reallyzaogao/with_replies

I suspect I might have broken something when trying to undo a tweet (which was eventually successful).
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby rdearman » Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:16 pm

newpotato wrote:Hi all,

It seems that the langchallenge bot has stopped replying to my tweets, is anyone able to help me work out what's going on?

https://twitter.com/reallyzaogao/with_replies

I suspect I might have broken something when trying to undo a tweet (which was eventually successful).

Has the bot updated your statistics on the webpage?
https://anki-tv.co.uk/

Recently Twitter announced reply limits for free bots (which the Super Challenge Bot is) and it might simply be we hit the limit for replies. This shouldn't affect the bot adding your score to your account in the database. Please check the website to see if your stats have been updated correctly. If not, then you'll need to give me a copy of your tweets here, and I'll see what I can do.

I have checked the bot and the website, and they are running fine. They have taken all my tweets. So I hate to say it, but at the moment it looks to me like user error.
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Re: Super Challenge: questions and discussion

Postby newpotato » Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:26 pm

Thanks for your help!

I don't doubt that this was probably some kind of user error from when I tried to undo a previous entry and is limited to me, but at this point as far as I can tell I seem to be sending valid tweets but they're not getting a reply from the bot and not getting put onto the scoring website.

Looking at all of the tweets that I have sent (https://twitter.com/reallyzaogao/with_replies), all of the tweets from February got replies from the bot and appeared on the scoring website (https://anki-tv.co.uk/participant.php?u ... allyzaogao). However, all of the tweets from March did not receive a bot reply and have not appeared on the scoring website.

The tweets that did work from Feb were:
@langchallenge #watch #chinese 45 minutes
@langchallenge #watched 40 minutes #chinese

While the tweets from March that did not work were:
@langchallenge #watched 20 minutes #zh
@langchallenge #watch 15 minutes #zh
@langchallenge #watched 10 minutes #zh
@langchallenge #watched 20 minutes #chinese

At the end of the day, if it's not clear what's causing the issue and it's not easy to fix, I'm more than happy to withdraw from the challenge, rejoin and resubmit all the tweets, even with another twitter account if needed.

Thanks again!
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