Free and Legal Challenge FLC 2019/2020

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Re: Free and Legal Challenge FLC 2019

Postby iguanamon » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:54 pm

rdearman wrote:Are you kicking this off for 2021 in January? Give us a year to do the FLC?

Sure, Rick, if you want to do it, I'll say it's on from whenever you start. No fancy rules, or get out of jail free cards. Free and legal.
I wrote:There will be only two variants in the new challenge:
1) Pure FLC- only free and legal resources which are available online *can be supplemented by native-speaker help and non-library resources, see FAQ on first post.
2) Library assisted- resources available through your public library or via an inter-library loan and can include any free and legal online resources.

Rules will be the same as on the first page. Remember this:
I wrote:Q: "Does this count?"
A: If you think it won't count, you're probably right. If you want to learn a language without any limitations, fantastic! Please, go right ahead!!! You'll just be doing it outside of the challenge. Yes that's unfair. Sorry about that.

Anyone else who thinks they can follow the rules and be honest with it, can join in at any time. Remember, it's the spirit of the challenge that's important. Of course, it's easier to sign up and pay for apps. Sure, just do Assimil is easier... but... can you learn a language online free and legal? Nobody has successfully completed the challenge, yet!
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Re: Free and Legal Challenge FLC 2019

Postby rdearman » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:45 am

Ok. Then I will sign up for the pure FLC in Korean. I will start on the 1st of January. The only difference is I plan to do this for an entire year rather so hopefully should hit A1 in the 9 month limit.

Wish me luck !
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Re: Free and Legal Challenge FLC 2019

Postby Querneus » Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:51 am

Hi.

I never check the Free and Legal Challenge threads, but I just wanted to quickly drop by and give you a reminder this challenge is hilariously easy if you do it in Latin... This year I've truly been astounded by how much more there is in terms of public domain and legal free-of-access Latin resources than I thought. From ryanfb's Loebolus to Laura Gibbs' Aesopus collection of over 4000 fables in easy Latin, the amount of stuff to practise with is endless...
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Re: Free and Legal Challenge FLC 2019/2020

Postby LunaMoonsilver » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:25 pm

I'm gonna try this again too, with Arabic (MSA). Clocked up 3.5 hours between October and now (lol) with Duolingo/Memrise/DLI so I haven't broken any rules so far. Not really setting a time limit - though it would be awesome to hit A1 (equivalent) by the end of the year!
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Re: Free and Legal Challenge FLC 2021

Postby iguanamon » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:29 pm

Is is possible to learn a language without buying courses? Is it possible to learn a language without somehow acquiring an illegally scanned and distributed copy of a commercial course online? Is it possible to learn a language for free with an internet connection, a phone, a pc, and/or a tablet? That's what the free and legal challenge is all about.

Why do this? Well, so far, nobody has completed it, or at least has come here and announced that they have done so. So it must not be all that easy to do then. In actuality, it is something that can be done. It isn't all that limiting. Good resources exist for all the popular languages and some that are less commonly studied. A1/A2/B1 isn't such a hard bar to reach.

If you start now, you have til September 4 to reach A1, or A2. Using only free and legally available resources is a part of the challenge that can help a learner become a better self-learner- better able to search for, find, and take advantage of less than optimal resources to learn a language. It can show a learner that old courses are not necessarily so far out of date that they can't be used to learn a language and that individually available free and legal resources used in combination can be greater than the sum of their parts. Doing the challenge can make a learner better at learning.

Yes, it's limiting. That's the point. Yes, being limited to free and legal resources isn't as easy as just using commercially available resources or popping on to an illegal download website. That's why it's a challenge. Many of us, as self-learners are spoiled by choice... especially learners of big, popular languages. Sometimes too much choice can hinder a learner actually learning a language. Some learners dismiss FSI; DLI; Cortina; or other freely available online courses as too "boring"; too thorough; too challenging... when in fact they are quite good at what they do. I used two such courses to learn Haitian Creole and help learn Portuguese. I thought those two DLI Basic Courses were the most thorough, complete and effective courses I have ever used.

So, what have you got to lose? Maybe some of your prejudices about some courses and learning methods. That's not such a bad thing. Maybe you can gain a perspective on how to better utilize sparse materials to make learning more effective. Maybe you might be the first to come here and announce you have successfully completed the challenge. Have a look at the first post for the rules. Just remember, I really don't like answering "Does this count" questions. If you think it doesn't count- you're probably right. If you need help finding resources, I have some experience doing this. Just ask and I'll see what I can do to help. Good luck! Let the challenge begin!
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