Super Challenge registration thread 2020

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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby wildNightIn » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:02 am

Language: Romance family (French and Spanish with a smattering of Italian and Romanian)
Challenge: Full
Current level: Total beginner (Romanian) to B2 (French)
Comments, links: I've not used my language skills for a few years, and they've completely atrophied. I've decided that this year I'm going to gently re-start consuming content in them. Hopefully this will encourage me to watch more TV and read more books!

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Comments, links: I'm not sure how reading is going to work out, but it sounds like the sort of challenge that's made for 2021.
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Super Challenge (joined 10/1/21):
Books : 0 / 100 Film : 0 / 100 Romance languages
Books : 0 / 100 Film : 8 / 100 ZH

Output Challenge 2021:
Written SP : 0 / 500
Recorded SP : 0 / 500

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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby Remusa » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:38 am

Language: German
Current Level: A1
Challenge: Half
Comments: This scares me

Language: Spanish
Current Level: A1/A2
Challenge: Half
Comments: I’m afraid I’ll burn out if I do the whole challenge
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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby RawToast » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:05 am

Language: Japanese
Challenge: Full
Current level: I passed N3 last December. So probably lower intermediate or B1? I know the JLPT doesn't really fit with the CEFR system.

Comments: I barely did any listening practice before. So I found the listening part of Japanese tests to be very hard, whilst the reading was easy. I actually started a personal challenge similar to this one, in an attempt to complete just the movie part this year. Once the listening part is out of the way, I'll focus more on reading.
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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby german2k01 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:29 pm

I am interested in enrolling for a super challenge for the next year , so will there be an updated thread along with new language goals? Thanks
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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby rdearman » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:15 pm

german2k01 wrote:I am interested in enrolling for a super challenge for the next year , so will there be an updated thread along with new language goals? Thanks

Yes, it normally starts on the 1st of May and runs until December 31st of the following year. This time I'll make sure to get the twitter bot sorted out, even if I have to use my own domain. :)
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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby lingua » Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:54 am

That would wonderful. I miss the bot.
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Output Challenge 2022:
DE: wrote: 0 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000
IT: wrote: 0 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000
PT: wrote: 544 / 50000 recorded: 0 / 3000

PT: Read 100 books: 19 / 100

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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby german2k01 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:46 pm

Yes, it normally starts on the 1st of May and runs until December 31st of the following year.


Can there be a mini-challenge/ a variation of a super challenge simultaneously that starts from the first day of January xxxx year and ends on the last day of the year? or will it be a hindrance for the super challenge itself as language learners try to compete for both challenges?
Just curious.
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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby rdearman » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:50 pm

Much of the reasoning for the 18 months is simply to give people enough time to win the challenge. It should be a challenge, but also a reachable challenge by people who have a job or family or otherwise cannot devote full time to languages. If we do the math.

Many resources indicate that the average reading speed of most adults is around 200 to 250 words per minute.


The minium reading requirement for the SC would be 250 * 50 * 100 which equals 1,250,000. One and one quarter of a million words reading at 200 words per minute is: 6250 minutes or 104 hours. Films are considered 90 minutes for the SC, so 9000 minutes or 150 hours.

Therefore, we have a minimum investment of 254 hours. Theoretically, a year would be more than enough. But that is calculating "average reading speed" some people will read faster, others slower. And reading in another language, I would almost guarantee you're not going to be hitting the 200-250 words per minute mark. So more likely is to double the 104 hours to 208. This gives a more realistic figure of about 358 hours.

The original challenge was 100 actual paperback books, so the average page count would have been closer to 200 than 50, and therefore a quadruple the 104 hours to 416.

So we're looking at a time to realistically complete between 358 - 566 hours. So 18 months reading 1 hour every day will get you 545 hours, which should let you end the challenge.

Having said all of that, many people complete the challenge during the first 12 months, but others do double-challenges, or SC in more than one language.

Another good reason for not starting in January is it is the "resolution" month when people resolve to do something with will change their life, and by February the gym-membership is cancelled, the running shoes thrown away, the chocolate is back in the cupboard.

german2k01 wrote:Can there be a mini-challenge/ a variation of a super challenge simultaneously that starts from the first day of January xxxx year and ends on the last day of the year? or will it be a hindrance for the super challenge itself as language learners try to compete for both challenges?
Just curious.


To answer your question, there isn't anything stopping from doing this yourself and just recording your score in your own log. It will not hinder the SC, since the bot will not actually be active until May, so you can't record your scores until then anyway. In addition, many people run 1 or 2 challenges concurrently with the SC. For example, you can be doing the 365-day challenge, and count the books you read from May-Dec against both challenges. You could be doing the "Peppa Pig" challenge and counting all the Peppa Pig episodes you watch against your SC films total.

So you could run your mini challenge starting in January, then from 1st of May count the books and films against both until Dec. Entirely up to you.
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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby german2k01 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:28 pm

That makes sense. For my German learning, I will try reading 27000 words or 109 pages of a book daily which is my mini-challenge starting from January 2022. I will be keeping a log for sure of the books I may be reading.
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Re: Super Challenge registration thread 2020

Postby einzelne » Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:28 am

rdearman wrote:The minium reading requirement for the SC would be 250 * 50 * 100 which equals 1,250,000.


The way the SC defines a book has always been confusing to me.

I happened to track all the French books I finished in 2021. In my case it's 1,500,000 words and I have only 23 books in my list.
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