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Re: Dutch resources

Postby Le Baron » Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:20 pm

I just opened the link above and see that I have it as a bookmark!'

I'm listening to it now, the last audio section (12 - part D). It has a lot of very strange sentences. However I'm not looking at the book, so perhaps you have to identify them as true/false? Such as:

'Amerikanen trouwen altijd in een theater.'
'Als ik een overhemd aan heb, kan ik geen biefstuk eten.'
'New York is dichtbij Rotterdam'. (should be: ...ligt vlakbij/dichtbij.)

The accent and prosody is a bit odd.
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Re: Dutch resources

Postby Ug_Caveman » Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:39 am

Just wondering, has anyone had experience with either the "Contact!" series or "Nederlands in Actie/Gang/op Niveau" series?

They seem to be targeted at specific CEFR levels, but I'm worried they're more for classroom study?
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Re: Dutch resources

Postby Le Baron » Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:39 pm

Ug_Caveman wrote:Just wondering, has anyone had experience with either the "Contact!" series or "Nederlands in Actie/Gang/op Niveau" series?

They' seem to be targeted at specific CEFR levels, but I'm worried they're more for classroom study?

I was in one of the 'proefgroepen' for Nederlands in Actie when it was being considered for use in the NT2 courses. Which is what it was developed for. Up to that point I'd used the 3rd book from the series 'Help!', when they then split the group into higher/lower.

Contact! goes up to B2 by book 3 and is specifically for training you to pass the B2 NT2 exam (or CNaVT) and has exam-like questions at the end. They use it now in the language centre for immigrants where I help out. It is also a commonly used course via Intertaal which probably sells the most language courses in NL via mail order. And supplies a lot of student books to colleges for French, German and Spanish. Contact! is one of their main courses for Nederlands als tweede taal and you can find lots of older editions in the 2nd-hand shops. They are indeed for classroom study, but also self-study use.

Two other books I'd recommend for anyone serious about getting written and spoken grammar in order are: Beter Nederlands (2 parts) which are about 120 pages each and Klare Taal. Both deal with specific grammar problems for foreign learners in a crystal clear way.
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Re: Dutch resources

Postby Ug_Caveman » Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:47 am

Le Baron wrote:They are indeed for classroom study, but also self-study use.

So it wouldn't be a wasted investment when looking to go from B1 to B2?
Le Baron wrote:Two other books I'd recommend for anyone serious about getting written and spoken grammar in order are: Beter Nederlands (2 parts) which are about 120 pages each and Klare Taal. Both deal with specific grammar problems for foreign learners in a crystal clear way.

By which authors, there's a few books which come up when you search for either :lol: ?
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Re: Dutch resources

Postby Le Baron » Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:53 am

Ug_Caveman wrote:So it wouldn't be a wasted investment when looking to go from B1 to B2?

It's still a dear course in my view. Though I could be of some assistance. ;)
By which authors, there's a few books which come up when you search for either :lol: ?

Jenny van de Toorn-Schutter for Klare Taal. Dina Bouman Noordermeer (main author) Beter Nederlands. The other authors: Gathier, Griffioen, Rutten.
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Re: Dutch resources

Postby Ug_Caveman » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:44 pm

Le Baron wrote:
Ug_Caveman wrote:So it wouldn't be a wasted investment when looking to go from B1 to B2?

It's still a dear course in my view. Though I could be of some assistance. ;)
By which authors, there's a few books which come up when you search for either :lol: ?

Jenny van de Toorn-Schutter for Klare Taal. Dina Bouman Noordermeer (main author) Beter Nederlands. The other authors: Gathier, Griffioen, Rutten.


Ah, I see there's also a Klare Taal Plus would you also recommend?
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Re: Dutch resources

Postby Le Baron » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:07 pm

Ug_Caveman wrote:Ah, I see there's also a Klare Taal Plus would you also recommend?

The advertised revised version of the ordinary edition claims to go up to C1, but then they advertise Klare Taal Plus as 'eindniveau B2', which makes no sense. I think it's safe to say B2 is the top level for these two books. I've only seen the 2011 edition of plus, there is a newer version with a sizeable price tag. It also only has 120-something pages.

There's a newer book called 'Dutch Grammar Support' written in English. Which is probably more value for money.

As a grammar I used Nederlands in Hoofdlijnen, which is far better than the Dover 'Essential Grammar'. It's shorter and clearer and has most of what is needed. The entire book including appendices is only 81 pages!
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Re: Dutch resources

Postby PeterMollenburg » Thu May 16, 2024 12:44 am

I'm going to crudely post my short-ish list of Dutch resources (well, basically mainly courses), most of which I own, in the hope that it'll be of some use. I don't have time to edit it, but I just want to post it and if anyone needs clarification (or for me to edit this post, tidy it up, delete it, lemme know). While I have my doubts, perhaps the list will be of some use, or might be used to add to the initial post of resources available to learn Dutch.


Mijn Cursussen in het Nederlands

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LISTE DES COURS FINIS :

1. Collins Gem Dutch Phrasebook
2. Teach Yourself Dutch Conversation
3. Pimsleur
4. M Thomas - Speak Dutch (Beginners)
5. M Thomas - Speak Dutch (Advanced)
6. Hugo Dutch in 3 Months [12]
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Cursussen (audio):
1. EN: Glossika Dutch EN-NL 1
2. EN: Glossika Dutch EN-NL 2
3. EN: Glossika Dutch EN-NL 3

Cursussen :
1. EN: TY Beg's NL (TY Get St. NL)
2. EN: TY Beginner’s Dutch (1997)
3. EN: TY Dutch (TY Comp. Dutch)
4. EN: Colloquial Dutch (1996)
5. EN: Basic Dutch
6. EN: Tell Me More (Beginner’s)
7. FR : Assimil Le nouveau néerlandais sans peine (‘81)/EN: Dutch with Ease (‘89)
8. EN: TY Dutch (1941, 1968)
9. FR : Assimil Le Néerlandais (CSP) (2011)
10. EN: Intermediate Dutch
11. FR : Méthode 90 néerlandais
12. EN: Routledge Intens. NL Course
13. FR : Assimil Le Néerlandais sans peine / EN: Dutch Withoit Toil (1979)
14. EN: Linguaphone Dutch (1984)
15. EN: Tell Me More (Int-Adv)
16. NL: Colloquial Dutch 2
17. NL: Hugo Dutch Advanced
18. FR : Assimil La prat du NL (1978)
19. EN: TY Dutch Grammar (a.k.a. Essential Dutch Grammar)
20. FR : Assimil Le Néerlandais des Affaires (1981)
21. EN: DLI Dutch Refresher Course (int-Adv)
22. EN: Routledge Intermediate Dutch Reader
23. NL: Nederlands naar Perfectie ISBN 9789046904527
24. Nieuw: online cursus Nederlands voor gevorderde anderstaligen: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2021/05/nieuw ... rstaligen/
25. EN: Dutch for Reading Knowledge (Christine van Baalen)
26. EN: Modern Dutch Grammar
27. EN: Dutch - An Essential Grammar
28. FR: https://www.deboecksuperieur.com/recherche/néerlandais
29. EN: Dutch - A Comprehensive Grammar
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Podcasts

NL: Leer het Nederlands

1. Apprendre le néerlandais (Lingua Boost)
2. Een beetje Nederlands
3. Op z'n Vlaams
4. 5-minuten Nederlands
5. Learn conversational Dutch (Lingua Boost)
6. Saskia teaches Dutch
7. Zeg het in het Nederlands
8. Plan B (VRT nu)
9. Dutch Level 1 - Reference (Language SurvivalGuide.com)
10. Learning Me Dutch
11. Learn Dutch DutchPod101
12. Learn Dutch with The Dutch Online Academy (TheDutchOnlineAcademy)
13. Learn Dutch with Lianne
14. Dutch Today: leer Nederlands met Martijn
15. Fluent Fiction - Dutch
16. Mama Dutch - Speak Du...
17. Fluent Fiction - Dutch
18. Dutch Stories Podcast
19. SBS Dutch - SBS Nederlands


NL: Nederlands voor de kinderen

1. De Verhalentrein, een kinderpodcast vol met leuke en originele luisterverhalen - Abel Studios
2. Eerst dit voor kids
3. Stokstaartjes

1. boeken voor kinderen
2. De Boterhamshow Podcast
3. Het Sinterklaasjournaal (de podcast)
4. Sara's Mysteries
5. Opa Rob vertelt
6. Wetenschapje (8+)
7. De Geluidskluis
8. NOS jeugdjournaal
9. Verhaaltjestijd
10. Verhalen voor het slapengaan
11. Kinderverhaaltjes Calily
12. Luisteravanturen
13. Verhalen voor kinderen
14. OmaGuus
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