Dutch resources

All about language programs, courses, websites and other learning resources
User avatar
rdearman
Site Admin
Posts: 7318
Joined: Thu May 14, 2015 4:18 pm
Location: United Kingdom
Languages: English (N)
Language Log: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1836
x 23599
Contact:

Dutch resources

Postby rdearman » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:06 am

Courses

50 Languages https://www.50languages.com
FSI/DLI
http://fsi-dli.yojik.eu/

University of Groningen
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/frisian
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/dutch

Go Dutch! A Beginning Textbook for University Students:
In honor of the 20th anniversary of our intro Dutch textbook, we are making it available to you free!
http://www.linguatextltd.com

Routledge Colloquials
Free audio available online in MP3 format.
http://www.routledgetextbooks.com/textb ... #languages

Laura Speaks Dutch Podcast http://www.lauraspeaksdutch.info
Online Dutch Grammar http://www.dutchgrammar.com/
(Seneca)

Multimedia
https://www.npo.nl
Dutch online Flash videos and subtitles (tommus)
https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... tch#p67084

AJ Kwak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqEPbIN ... 10A9956F05

Audiobooks
https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 89&p=35342

Dutch Radio Stations http://www.listenlive.eu/netherlands.html

Reading

Graded Readers (Speakeasy)
Dutch For Reading Knowledge, Baalen, Bom, Hollander: John Benjamins Publishing.
Routledge Intermediate Dutch Reader, Verbaan, Sas, Louwerse, Routledge.
Reading Dutch, Shetter, Bird, Martinus Nijhoff Leiden (out of print, but still available)
Néerlandais avancé, Presse radio, Engelen, Nachtergaele, Yans, de Boeck.

Brothers Grimm in Dutch http://www.grimmstories.com/nl/grimm_sprookjes/index
Proverbs https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dutch_proverbs

Newspapers and Magazines
Algemeen Dagblad (sports, entertainment): http://www.ad.nl/
De Redactie (België): http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws
NOS Nieuws (Nederlands): http://nos.nl/nieuws/
NRC Handelsblad (right leaning): http://www.nrc.nl/
Volkskrant (left leaning): http://www.volkskrant.nl/
Wablieft - Boeken, Tekstadvies & Krant: http://www.wablieft.be/
News
http://www.telegraaf.nl/
http://www.hln.be/

Dutch Military Encyclopedia (tommus)
http://nl.milpedia.org/wiki/Hoofdpagina
Science topics (tommus)
http://www.newscientist.nl/
http://www.scientias.nl/
http://www.kennislink.nl/

Dictionaries
https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... =19&t=3035
http://goldendict.org/download.php

Online bookstores
https://www.bol.com/nl/m/boeken/nederla ... index.html
https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... =19&t=2904

Forums
https://www.wetenschapsforum.nl/index.p ... /home.html

Testing tools

Dialang
https://dialangweb.lancaster.ac.uk

Ghent Uni vocabulary test
http://woordentest.ugent.be

Lextale: A fast, free vocabulary test (English, German, Dutch - online)
http://www.lextale.com/index.html

Dutch text reading level testing tool.
https://www.accessibility.nl/kennisbank ... iveau-tool

Dutch Study Group
https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 40#p127553
Last edited by reineke on Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
6 x
: 56 / 150 Read 150 books in 2024

My YouTube Channel
The Autodidactic Podcast
My Author's Newsletter

I post on this forum with mobile devices, so excuse short msgs and typos.

David27
Green Belt
Posts: 284
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:52 pm
Languages: English (N)
French, Spanish (advanced)
Russian, Portuguese, Italian, German (proficient)
Mandarin, Japanese, Dutch (low-intermediate)
Latin, Polish: (beginner)
Abandoned languages (for now) :( Greek, Czech, Bengali, Arabic, Norwegian
x 1017

Re: Dutch resources

Postby David27 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:52 pm

Danke für die Liste. Es wird mir helfen, wenn ich Nierderländisch in ernst studiere. Jemand hier lernt Nierderländisch durch Deutsch? Haben sie guten Niederländischkurse/ Bücher auf Deutsch zu empfehlen?
0 x

mcthulhu
Orange Belt
Posts: 228
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:01 pm
Languages: English (native); strong reading skills - Russian, Spanish, French, Italian, German, Serbo-Croatian, Macedonian, Bulgarian, Slovene, Farsi; fair reading skills - Polish, Czech, Dutch, Esperanto, Portuguese; beginner/rusty - Swedish, Norwegian, Danish
x 590

Re: Dutch resources

Postby mcthulhu » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:12 pm

https://languagemachines.github.io/frog/ - NLP package for Dutch, including lemmatization (my main interest), POS tagging, etc. Various other tools can also analyze Dutch, including the pattern library for Python, and CSTLemma. https://github.com/Orbifold/tink is another NLP package focusing on Dutch.

Also http://www.wordreference.com/, http://dictionary.reverso.net/dutch-english/, and http://www.interglot.com/dictionary/nl/en/ have Dutch dictionaries. https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Hoofdpagina has 650K+ entries now, and is also pretty good at going from inflected forms to lemmas.

See https://github.com/weRbelgium/wordnet.dutch for a Dutch WordNet.

https://nl.wikisource.org/wiki/Hoofdpagina is another source for Dutch texts.

https://nl.globalvoices.org/ - Global Voices also has news articles in Dutch, usually along with translations for several languages.
1 x

Speakeasy
x 7667

Re: Dutch resources

Postby Speakeasy » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:23 pm

Dutch Courses
I dug around my basement and came up with the list below. There are other materials down there, but they are surrounded by multi-eyed, venomous creatures.

Speak Dutch: an Audio-Lingual Course / Modern Dutch, A First Year College Level Audio-Lingual Course for Dutch -- Walter Lagerwey
This course was first introduced in 1965, at a time when the audio-lingual method enjoyed the wide-spread support of American academia. The course content resembles that of the FSI Basic courses of the era; that is, dialogues accompanied by significant amounts of sentence-pattern drills. The first edition of this course was published in two volumes under the title "Modern Dutch, A First Year College Level Audio-Lingual Course for Dutch" and a slightly revised edition was published under the title “Speak Dutch: an Audio-Lingual Course”. A PDF copy of the revised version of the course manual is available on the U.S. Government’s ERIC website. Copies of the course manuals are still available at reasonably low prices via the large online booksellers’ websites. The 25-plus hours’ worth of audio recordings are available on the University of Indiana’s CeLT website and, although access is restricted to registered students, staff, alumni, instructors, et cetera, it is rumoured that the recordings are privately available. A copy of the original tapes is available at the University of Chicago’s Digital Media Archive.

https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED024029
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?isbn=9028000836&cm_sp=mbc-_-9028000836-_-all
http://www.iu.edu/~celtie/dutch_archive.html
https://dma.uchicago.edu/collections/1217

Assimil Dutch (level 1)
The current generation of Assimil’s beginner-intermediate Dutch course, by Paupert Christina, is available in several languages, including: English, French, German, and Italian directly from the publisher, via numerous online booksellers’ websites, and in innumerable bookshops.

The previous edition of Assimil’s beginner-intermediate Dutch course, by Leon Verlee, is out-of-print, but used copies are still available via the large online booksellers’ websites. Rumour has it that the audio recordings are privately available.

The original edition of Assimil’s beginner-intermediate Dutch course, by A. Chérel, is out-of-print, but used copies are still available via the large online booksellers’ websites. I would not decline a private offer of the audio recordings.

Assimil Dutch (level 2)
The original edition of Assimil’s intermediate-advanced Dutch course, “La pratique du Néerlandais”, Leon Verlee, is out-of-print, but used copies are still available via the large online booksellers’ websites. Rumour has it that the audio recordings are privately available.

Livre de Poche (Méthode 90) – Néerlandais Débutant
I presume that members are familiar with the highly-rated Méthode 90 series of self-instruction language books. The approach of these intensive French-based courses resembles somewhat the of the Assimil method and they aim for the roughly the same level upon completion; that is A2-B1. The publisher continues to offer the original course manual, which became available in 1991, as reprints but, rather curiously, no longer offers the audio recordings. Nevertheless, rumour has it that the audio recordings are privately available.

Living Language Spoken World Dutch
The approach of Random House’s “Spoken World” series is identical to that of this publisher’s excellent and very successful “Ultimate” series, with which I presume many members are already familiar. The latter series covered the more popular languages such as French, German, Italian, Japanese, Spanish, Russian, et cetera, whereas the former covered the less popular languages such as Dutch, Farsi Korean, et cetera. Prospect buyers of the “Spoken World” series are advised to note carefully whether or not the accompanying 6 CDs are included in online offers as the book and the recordings are often sold separately.

Routledge Intensive Dutch Course
The publisher incorrectly advises prospective buyers of the “Routledge Intensive Dutch Course” that this otherwise well-conceived introductory-intermediate course can be used in an independent-learning situation. Although well-designed, it would be more appropriate for presentation in a classroom setting. The accompanying CD audio recordings are sold separately and a Dutch-only transcription is freely available on the publisher’s website. All-in-all, given the availability of other excellent materials for studying Dutch, I would “pass” on this offer.

Routledge Colloquial Dutch
While many, if not most, of the courses in the Routledge Colloquial series are limited in scope and are designed to suit the CEFR A1-level needs of a short-term traveller to a region where the L2 is spoken, the “Routledge Colloquial Dutch” provides more meat-on-the-bone, aiming for the CEFR A2-level. The accompanying audio recordings are delivered at a conversational speed, a matter which might take some learners by surprise. While the course is, indeed, well-designed and while I enjoyed it, if I had to choose between this one and Assimil’s Dutch offering, well, ...

Linguaphone Dutch (Curus Nederlands)
Save for a few exceptions, many of the Linguaphone courses that are presently offered by this publisher date from the 1970’s and, while the method certainly has its merits, the courses are beginning to be a little long-in-the-tooth. In contrast, the latest edition of the Linguaphone Dutch course benefited from a complete rewrite in 1984. The approach is similar to, but not quite the same as, the one that was adopted in the 1930’s and, essentially, maintained through the 1970’s. This is a well-conceived, fairly modern, course capable of taking the learner to the B1 level upon completion. My usual recommendations concerning the Linguaphone courses apply: (1) with a view to compensating for the less-than-crystal-clear notes, accompany this course with a simple grammar, and (2) do not pay the regular price; rather, buy “refurbished” editions, await for the seasonal price discounts, or track down a used copy.

Pimsleur Dutch / Michel Thomas Dutch
Either of these all-audio programs is a great place to acquire a “general feel for” the Dutch language. While the level achieved upon completion may be no more than CEFR A0, these courses are very useful for acquiring a basic understanding of Dutch sentence structure and present/past tense verb conjugations and for acquiring a decent command of the subtleties of Dutch pronunciation.

Glossika Dutch
Although no longer available from the publisher, the Glossika Dutch files were reportedly of some use in practicing/attaining a CEFR A2-B1 level of fluency.

Learning Dutch? - A Program and A Set of Lessons
http://www.heardutchhere.net/LearningDutch.html

Cameleondeslangues – Learn Dutch, English and much more!
http://cameleondeslangues.be/en/are-you-struggling-with-languages-you-are-at-the-right-place-how-to-learn-a-language-easily/
https://forum.language-learners.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=86864&sid=d7938e66d5f92fb091249de4d4322aeb#p86864
https://forum.language-learners.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&p=76272&sid=e188e9a506b62ae91d5b1a1afd5984a7#p76272

The Language Business (Accelerated Learning Dutch)
http://www.language-business.co.uk/dutch_course.html


Discussion Threads: LLORG and HTLAL

Best Dutch Materials (Netherlands Pronunciation) - LLORG
https://forum.language-learners.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2476

Esdoornblad Dutch Log - LLORG
https://forum.language-learners.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1405

Learning Dutch From 0 - HTLAL
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39202&PN=6

Flemish vs Dutch – Differences - HTLAL
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22939&PN=1

Differences between NL and BE Dutch
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38331&PN=1

Isn’t Flemish a Dialect? - HTLAL
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40494&PN=3

Dutch: Assimil or Linguaphone? - HTLAL
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21854&PN=66
7 x

User avatar
neumanc
Orange Belt
Posts: 134
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:19 am
Location: Düsseldorf (Germany)
Languages: Speaks: German (native), English, Dutch
Studies: French (advanced), Spanish (false beginner)
Mostly forgotten: Italian, Latin
x 441

Re: Dutch resources

Postby neumanc » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:03 am

Speakeasy wrote:Dutch Courses
Assimil Dutch (level 1)
The current generation of Assimil’s beginner-intermediate Dutch course, by Paupert Christina, is available in several languages, including: English, French, German, and Italian directly from the publisher, via numerous online booksellers’ websites, and in innumerable bookshops.

The previous edition of Assimil’s beginner-intermediate Dutch course, by Leon Verlee, is out-of-print, but used copies are still available via the large online booksellers’ websites. Rumour has it that the audio recordings are privately available.

As always a very informative posting, Speakeasy. However, I would like to correct the information about the current generation of Assimil's beginner-intermediate Dutch course "Le Néerlandais" published in 2011. As far as I know, this course is only available from a French or an Italian base (in Italian it's called "Il Neerlandese"), whereas the current offerings in English ("Dutch with ease") and German ("Niederländisch ohne Mühe heute") still correspond to the course "Le Nouvel Néerlandais sans peine" by Leon Verlee, published in 1984.

A short note on the quality of the courses: The 1984 course seems to be a little bit more comprehensive than the 2011 course, but the latter is more up to date. The language in the 2011 course is exactly what you will hear in the streets in the Netherlands. The best you can achieve with the 2011 course, however, is A2 or maybe very low B1, because there's simply not enough information in it. The oldest course from A. Chérel "Néerlandais sans peine" / "Dutch without toil" / "Niederländisch ohne Mühe" is (much) more comprehensive, but unfortunately quite outdated, more so than the other "without toil" courses in my opinion. But you could still use it for vocabulary acquisition. I have the impression that it contains at least double the amount of vocabulary (if not thrice as many) in comparison to the 1984 and 2011 courses.
4 x

Speakeasy
x 7667

Re: Dutch resources

Postby Speakeasy » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:42 pm

Assimil Dutch
Neumanc, thank you for the clarifications concerning the Assimil Dutch materials, these useful distinctions are very much appreciated!


Dutch from a German Base
David27, with respect to your question concerning learning Dutch from a German base, neither Amazon.de nor AbeBooks.de seems to have much to offer beyond “Assimil Niederländisch ohne Mühe heute“ which, by the way, is a very good basic course. Perhaps Neumanc might offer some suggestions?

Amazon.de
https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_19?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=niederl%C3%A4ndisch+lernen&sprefix=niederl%C3%A4ndisch+lern%2Caps%2C232&crid=3A8WFU1HNIFNZ&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aniederl%C3%A4ndisch+lernen

AbeBooks.de
https://www.abebooks.de/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=&tn=&kn=niederl%E4ndisch+lernen&isbn=

In addition, as a general matter, there seems to be a consensus amongst many experienced forum members that, in order for L2-L3 learning to be efficient and effective, it is preferable that one have already attained a CEFR B2 level in the L2.

My personal experience of studying Dutch from combined German-French-English bases may, or may not, be relevant. While it was fun at the time, I was surprised by the results. Following about a year of very concentrated study of Dutch, upon my return to my German studies (in which I believed I was fairly strong), I was horrified to discover that my ability to speak the latter had been utterly shattered by my study of the former, requirng that I emark on a lengthy recovery programme. While not everyone succumbs to this problem, should you embark on a programme of studying Dutch from a German base, you might wish to consider your own ability to keep the two languages separated.

EDITED:
Typos, wie immer!
2 x

User avatar
guiguixx1
Orange Belt
Posts: 190
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:10 pm
Location: Belgium
Languages: French (N), English (C2), Dutch (C1), Spanish (C1), Italian (B2), Esperanto (A2), Portuguese (B2), German (A2), Catalan (passively)
x 238
Contact:

Re: Dutch resources

Postby guiguixx1 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:57 pm

If someone is interested, I have some simplified short stories here: http://cameleondeslangues.be :
3 x
Language learning and teaching website as a French teacher of Dutch and English: cameleondeslangues.be

User avatar
neumanc
Orange Belt
Posts: 134
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:19 am
Location: Düsseldorf (Germany)
Languages: Speaks: German (native), English, Dutch
Studies: French (advanced), Spanish (false beginner)
Mostly forgotten: Italian, Latin
x 441

Re: Dutch resources

Postby neumanc » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:22 pm

Speakeasy wrote:Dutch from a German Base
David27, with respect to your question concerning learning Dutch from a German base, neither Amazon.de nor AbeBooks.de seems to have much to offer beyond “Assimil Niederländisch ohne Mühe heute“ which, by the way, is a very good basic course. Perhaps Neumanc might offer some suggestions?

As Speakeasy already said, for learning Dutch from a German base with self-study courses, there are not really many options. I myself have used "Assimil Niederländisch ohne Mühe heute" (2005), which is--sadly enough--the most comprehensive course currently available for self-study from a German base. A really comprehensive, but quite outdated resource would be the old "Assimil Niederländisch ohne Mühe" (1951) by A. Chérel. In my opinion, there's no way around this course. The book should not be hard to obtain, but the audio cassettes are very rare. However, rumour has it that the audio recordings are privately available. All the other self-study courses from a German base are not only aimed at absolute beginners, but will not let you get anywhere beyond the beginner's stage. Good introductory self-study courses that, however, won't let you get beyond A2 are:

  • "Langenscheidt Fit in 30 Tagen - Niederländisch - Sprachkurs für Anfänger und Wiedereinsteiger" (2017), previously published under the name "Langenscheidt Niederländisch in 30 Tagen" (2011). The course title is ridiculous, because you won't get anywhere near being fluent, but the contents is not bad. It's something in between a Teach Yourself-style course and a (very) short Assimil course. There are 30 lessons with audio, most of which consist of a Dutch dialog translated completely into German (Assimil-like parallel text), a vocabulary list, grammar explanations and exercises. The vocabulary list at the end of the book has about 1,100 entries. The course is considered to get you to A2. Maybe this might be possible.
  • "Langenscheidt Niederländisch mit System" (2012), previously published under the title "Langenscheidt Praktischer Sprachlehrgang Niederländisch" (2010). This course consists of a book, an answer key, and 3 audio CDs with dialogues in two speaking speeds and varied listening and speaking training. This is the "best" Langenscheidt has to offer nowadays. On the package it says: "führt zu B1" (leads to B1). The coursebook (256 page) contains 15 lessons and is more or less like a Teach Yourself. Each of the 15 lessons begins with an overview what can be learned from the lesson, then a dialog follows, a vocabulary list and then grammar explanations and exercises. I like that the dialogues are translated in the back of the book. But I think that the course is lacking in vocabulary. The vocabulary list at the end of the book has about 1,400 entries. I doubt if this is really enough for B1.
  • "Langenscheidts Praktischer Sprachlehrgang" (1997). This is a different course from the above-mentioned one. Unfortunately, it has been discontinued, but used copies are still available. It consists of a coursebook (256 pages), an answer key and two cassettes or CDs. This course follows the grammar-translation method which has gone out of fashion today. However, this course is the most comprehensive course for studying Dutch from a German base if you put Assimil aside (at least grammar-wise). The pages are tightly printed, the grammar and translation exercises are thorough. The vocabulary list at the end of the book has about 1,700 entries, which is not so much, but the grammar explanations are top-notch.
  • "PONS Power-Sprachkurs Niederländisch in 4 Wochen" (2015), formerly known as "PONS Power-Sprachkurs Niederländisch" (2010). This course (270 pages, 2 CDs included) is amazingly thorough, even though it leads only up to A2 (although I doubt this level can be achieved with this course in 4 weeks). The vocabulary list at the end of the book has about 1,900 (!) entries. I haven't used this book yet, but I'm considering it. It's a Teach Yourself-like resource. I would say that this course has more pages, but less teaching content than the above "Langenscheidts Praktischer Sprachlehrgang Niederländisch".
  • "Hueber Sprachkurs Niederländisch: Schnell & intensiv" (2011), 224 pages and including 3 CDs. Quite good Teach Yourself-like resource, but teaches only 1,000 words. I like that every dialog is translated into German (parallel text).
  • "Lextra - Niederländisch - Sprachkurs Plus: Anfänger: A1/A2 - Selbstlernbuch mit CDs". This course is not only Teach Yourself-like, this is the "Teach Yourself Complete Dutch" course, that is to say a translation of it. The course contents is quite good (and very up to date!), but you cannot achieve more than A2 with it, I'm sure. Although the Teach Yourself courses claim to lead the student to "Level 4" competency, whatever that might be, the Lextra series officially leads only to A2, which seems more correct to me.

Unfortunately, I am not aware of any advanced level self-study course for Dutch from a German base. This is a pity, because Dutch is quite easy for German speakers. In my opinion, it is also not a good idea to concentrate on grammar like all these courses do. Dutch grammar is quite similar to German and therefore intuitive. Okay, there are some differences, especially with regard to the sequence of verbs in subordinate clauses, but this shouldn't be a problem. If any, Dutch grammar is (much) easier than German grammar (no cases, only two genders, etc.). It would be much more relevant to concentrate on Dutch vocabulary, which is also quite easy to learn for German speakers due to its similarity to German, but must be learned (guessing is not really an option). And that's why you should use Assimil (especially the old version by A. Chérel). However, the best resource for advanced Dutch is the 2nd stage course "Assimil La Pratique du Néerlandais" (1978), which regrettably is only available second-hand and from a French base.
4 x

User avatar
reineke
Black Belt - 3rd Dan
Posts: 3570
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:34 pm
Languages: Fox (C4)
Language Log: https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... =15&t=6979
x 6558

Re: Dutch resources

Postby reineke » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:19 pm

0 x

User avatar
neumanc
Orange Belt
Posts: 134
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:19 am
Location: Düsseldorf (Germany)
Languages: Speaks: German (native), English, Dutch
Studies: French (advanced), Spanish (false beginner)
Mostly forgotten: Italian, Latin
x 441

Re: Dutch resources

Postby neumanc » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:37 pm

reineke wrote:https://www.klett-sprachen.de/weitere-sprachen/niederlaendisch/c-108

The offers of Klett-Verlag are certainly of high quality. Above all, there are some works that are aimed at advanced students. The only problem is that these books are not intended for self-study, but for classroom teaching. It may still be possible to (mis-)use them, I for myself decided that the textbooks could only be used fruitfully with a tutor.
1 x


Return to “Language Programs and Resources”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests