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Occitan

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:20 am
by Tillumadoguenirurm
Occitan resource list. Don't be afraid to post if you want to add a link or notice a mistake.



General information, portals etc.:

http://www.locongres.org
http://www.revistadoc.com
http://www.chambradoc.it
http://www.occitanica.eu
http://www.cieldoc.com

Interactive map of Occitan: http://www.prosodia.upf.edu/atlasintonacion

Occitan Lexicon Online: http://www.klingebiel.com/occitan/dicos.html

Etymology Dictionary: http://www.etymologie-occitane.fr/

Wordlists, dictionary, etc. in French and Occitan: http://www.academiaoccitana.eu

Some verb tables: http://www.ostau-bigordan.com/index.php ... -pratiques

Pamphlet about Occitan, in Occitan:
http://www.in-oc.org/images/ressources/ ... iberet.pdf

A pamphlet about Occitan, in Catalan: http://www.llengua.gencat.cat/ca/servei ... _occitana/





Gascon:

http://www.pernoste.com


Limousin :

http://www.la-biaca.org/index.php?optio ... Itemid=101.

http://www.al.deliquet.free.fr/Oc-lemosin/


Auvergnat:

http://www.recits-occitan.com


Aranés:

Conversation guide with audio, Universitat de Barcelona, in Aranés/Catalan/English: http://www.ub.edu/guiaconversa/a.php?id ... r=guianova

A pamphlet about Aranés, in Catalan:
http://www.llengua.gencat.cat/ca/servei ... nes_occita.

Various publications in Aranés: http://www.publicacions.conselharan.org/es

Verbs: http://www.verbscatalans.com/aranes.php


Languedocien: http://www.crdp-montpellier.fr/occitan/labo/labo.htm (dire en Òc)

A pamphlet about Languedocien: http://www.univ-montp3.fr/occitan/image ... atical.pdf




Text, magazines:

http://www.jornalet.com
http://www.lasetmana.fr



Audio:

http://www.radio-occitania.com/
http://www.radiolengadoc.com/
http://www.radioalbiges.com/

French/Francitan/Occitan on France Bleu:
Les mots d'Òc Toulouse: http://www.francebleu.fr/emissions/les- ... c/toulouse
Les mots d'Òc Béarn: http://www.francebleu.fr/emissions/les- ... lles/bearn
Mots de chez nous, Vaucluse: http://www.francebleu.fr/emissions/mots ... r/vaucluse

Meitat chen meitat pòrc: http://www.francebleu.fr/emissions/meit ... c/perigord
Conta Monde: http://www.francebleu.fr/emissions/conta-monde-0


Other:

Lo Congrès verb'Òc (verb conjugator) for Android and Apple.
Lo Congrès dicod'Òc (dictionary) for Android and Apple.

Printed courses/sources:

Assimil L'Occitan sans peine: http://fr.assimil.com/methodes/l-occitan
Assimil: Le Gascon de poche: https://www.amazon.fr/Gascon-poche-Guid ... 2700503457

Re: Occitan

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:38 am
by Saim
Dictionaries, translation

The Catalan government has developed an online automatic translation tool that translates from Standard Occitan or Aranese to Catalan or Spanish and vice-versa.
http://traductor.gencat.cat/index.jsp?locale=ca

Occitan-French and French-Occitan dictionary
http://www.panoccitan.org/diccionari.aspx

Videos

An online Occitan channel funded by several regional governments in l'Occitània Granda (French-administered Occitania). A lot of it is in Bearnese and other varieties of Gascon, but there is some Languedocian in there as well. Includes interviews, dubbed children's cartoons, comedy, music and short documentaries.
http://www.octele.com/aculhida.html

Aranese programs produced by TV3 (Catalan public television). Includes news reports (Aranese regional news TN Comarques Vall d'Aran and international news TV3/24) and children's programs. Also includes radio (at the Aran Valley level Meddia Aranés and at the level of Catalonia Catalunya Informació (aranès)).
http://www.ccma.cat/aranes/

Re: Occitan

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:59 pm
by zenmonkey
Don't forget the Assimil "L'Occitan" course.

Re: Occitan

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:59 pm
by PeterMollenburg
I must say it's a shame, that Occitan (collectively) is declining so rapidly for a once rather large and arguably strong language (group/continuum).

So it's rather nice to see some interest and ressources here :)

Re: Occitan

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:18 pm
by zenmonkey
PeterMollenburg wrote:I must say it's a shame, that Occitan (collectively) is declining so rapidly for a once rather large and arguably strong language (group/continuum).

So it's rather nice to see some interest and ressources here :)


Don't forget the great music of Moussu T e Lei Jovents


Re: Occitan

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:57 pm
by Tillumadoguenirurm
zenmonkey wrote:Don't forget the Assimil "L'Occitan" course.


Indeed! There's also an Assimil pocketguide for Gascon. Thanks for the reminder.

Re: Occitan

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:22 pm
by PeterMollenburg

Re: Occitan

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:54 am
by Saim
I just remembered some resources that aren't free/online but are quite valuable.

I highly recommend Carrera's learner's grammar for anyone approaching Occitan from Catalan, it deals with both Aranese and Lengadocian as well as bits and piecies of other varieties (understanding dialectal variation is extremely necessary when learning Occitan due to how fragmented and minoritised it is):

https://www.espaci-occitan.com/botiga/o ... rrera.html

He also wrote a grammar specifically for Aranese which I haven't looked through, but which I assume is at a similar level of quality.

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I also preferred Parli Occitan to the Assimil course (it lost me with some random dialogue about a regional type of roof or some other such nonsense):

http://www.decouvertes-occitanes.fr/fr/ ... ouste.html

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As for Occitan music, I can recommend the following groups:

Mauresca Fracàs Dub (reggae, hip hop-ish; Lengadocian)
Doctors de Trobar (hip hop; Provençal and Lengadocian)
Alidé Sans (singer-songwriter; Aranese)
Lou Seriol (ska/rock; Vivaroaupenc/Alpine dialect from the Valadas in Piedmont)
Massilia Sound System (reggae; Provençal)

Mauresca and especially Massilia have a number of songs in French as well. Mauresca also has the occasional verse in Spanish.

Re: Occitan

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:18 am
by schlaraffenland
What considerations should one take into account when it comes to learning Occitan versus one of its variants/dialects/relations?

I find I'm most interested in Provençal, but the resources for learners simply don't seem to be as robust, whether coming from English or French. I would like the support of a fairly complete course, such as Assimil or its equivalent, and not just a phrase book with common tourist terms and IPA glosses. People seem to rate the content of Provençal pour les nuls highly, but the lack of audio accompaniment is a no-go for me. In fact, it's really the audio I want to focus on, since Provençal looks pretty intelligible when one can already read Latin and French and Spanish.

I would be interested in developing a decent conversational capability in time, such that I could walk into a meet-up in Marseille and talk a bit with people, for example. I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to read Frédéric Mistral.

Given the dearth of robust materials -- unless I've missed something -- does it simply make more sense to go ahead and learn Occitan, and only then bridge the gaps between it and Provençal?

Re: Occitan

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:39 am
by zenmonkey
schlaraffenland wrote:Given the dearth of robust materials -- unless I've missed something -- does it simply make more sense to go ahead and learn Occitan, and only then bridge the gaps between it and Provençal?


That would be my approach.

Provençal has some pronunciation shifts, nasalisation, unrolled r, etc... but if you know Occitan you can probably go to that meeting...