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Re: Lingua Latina per se illustrata questions

Postby Keys » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:00 am

Elexi wrote:I think LLPSI hits a high ramp around chapter 10 and can become frustrating, but then I am not really a fan of the natural method on its own.
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For deeper grammar study - I would recommend - Allen and Greenough - the PDF can be downloaded here:
http://www.textkit.com/latin_grammar.php

I really like the way this method makes you feel you can read already. However, as you say you hit a high ramp around chapter 10, does that also have to do with the meaning of words? I wonder if at a certain moment or level of complexity/abstraction it becomes very difficult to guess the meaning of words from context.

Also, is 1800 words head-words or counting inflections? Is one able to read independently after this?

On the http://www.textkit.com/latin_grammar.php site I also found interlinear word-for-word translations of Cicero and Caesar by Giles.

These seem to me to be the opposite of the Natural method, all literal meanings versus no meaning at all.

To me who is fan of interlinear I found it amazing how good it felt to just read away in the Lingua Latina with the Natural method. As opposed to the "latin - english - latin - english - latin - english - etc" not-so-interlinear (more inter-sentence) format of Giles.

Then again, the Natural method has me reading "The Rhone is in Germany", while in Giles I'm reading advanced Latin, so I guess it's not comparable.

That's where I wonder how using the Natural method can completely teach you to read a language? And does the fact that you need the translation at a higher level not invalidate this method?

To be fair, I love it at first sight ;) I just wonder how far it can go without the reader getting stunted at unknown words that the book tries to explain with elaborate pictures (getting Rosetta Stone-like).
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Re: Lingua Latina per se illustrata questions

Postby samtediou » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:51 pm

Salvete omnes!

My question centers around the pronunciation of the verb 'minuere' and one of its passive forms 'minuitur', found in XIX of LLPSI. Are there 3 syllables or 4 in each of these form?

Here's part of one of the sentences in LLPSI: ...amor meus tempore non minuitur.

I believe minuere has 4, since ue isn't a Latin diphthong, right? So I would pronounce this form as mi.NU.e.re with emphasis over the NU. Right?

What about minuitur? Is the ui a diphthong here? Should it be mi . NU . i . tur (emphasis on the NU), or MIN . ui . tur (emphasis on the first syllable)?
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Re: Lingua Latina per se illustrata questions

Postby humester » Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:01 am

LLPSI Recommended Order (as intended by the author):

PART 1

1. Familia Romana
+ Familia Romana Exercitia Latina I
2. Colloquia Personarum (read each Colloquium after each Capitulum of Familia Romana from Cap1-24)
3. Fabulae Syrae (read each group of Fabulae after each Capitulum of Familia Romana from Cap26-34)

AFTER COMPLETING PART 1,

BEFORE READING PART 2
(these can be read in any order, but complete them before going on to PART 2)

4. Sermones Romani
5. Amphitryo
6. De Bello Gallico by Julius Caesar
7. Epitome Historiae Sacrae

PART 2

8. Roma Aeterna Cap36-40
(the first chapter of Roma Aeterna is Cap36,
because it's the continuation of Familia Romana
which ends at cap35)
+ Familia Romana Exercitia Latina II
9. Aeneid books I and IV by Vergil
10. Ars Amatoria by Ovid -return to Roma Aeterna, Cap41-45
11. De Rerum Natura by Lucretius
12. The Eclogues (Bucolica Carmina) by Vergil

-return to Roma Aeterna, Cap46-47

13. Cena Trimalchionis by Petronius -return to Roman Aeterna, Cap48-56
14. Catilina: the history of the Catiline War by Sallust, interspersed with Cicero's Orations Against Catiline
Playlist of my LLPSI recordings: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...




Learning Latin Order of Books
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata: Familia Romana at Amazon.com at this link : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata: Colloquia Personarum at Amazon.com at this link : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Fabulae Syrae by Luigi Miraglia at Amazon.com at this link : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata: Exercitia Latina at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Sermones Romani at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Plauti Amphitryo at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Epitome Historiae Sacrae at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Caesaris De Bello Gallico at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata Pars II: Roma Aeterna at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata: Exercitia Latina Pars II at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Vergilii Aeneis at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Ovidii Ars Amatoria at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Petronii Cena Trimalchionis at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
Salustii & Ciceronis: Catilina at Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...
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