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Posted: **Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:40 pm**

Luke Ranieri has a great YouTube channel with the complete dialogues from Traupman's Conversational Latin for Oral Proficiency read out in restored classical pronunciation, readings from Ovid, Virgil, Catullus, a series on rcp pronunciation, and a song by Kermit the Frog.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRlloh ... UgW6HfltLA

Posted: **Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:39 pm**

New Latin Grammar released on Gutenberg.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/15665

Posted: **Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:39 pm**

Evan Millner's London Latin course has been mentioned in some other thread, but deserves its spot here. 170 FSI-like lessons, each a couple of minutes long.

Posted: **Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:06 am**

DaveBee wrote:La cercle latin de la nouvelle france have an online/PDF course "Latin vivant par la méthode naturelle de l’abbé William G. MOST et du père Victor COULOMBE"

It may not be apparent from that page, but this is a translation of the English original, "Latin by the natural method", by William George Most, who was both a priest and a professor of Latin at Loras College, in Dubuque, Iowa. Victor Coulombe, a Jesuit scholar at Laval University in Quebec City, was impressed by it enough to translate it into French. And (to get to the point of this post), the English original is also available from the same website:

https://cerclelatin.org/wiki/Most_versi ... first-year

Note that there are three volumes or books, for years one, two, and three, even though the French translation is only given for years one and two. I have checked the online library catalogue for Laval University, and it does appear that they have a copy of the French translation of the third year volume. So it appears that the third volume was translated. If so, it is a mystery to me, why they did not put it online as well, along with the first two years.

By the way, if one also prefers a pdf of the teacher's manual, the pages are available at hathitrust:

https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001724520

(If you wanted a single pdf file of the teacher's manual, I suppose you could download each page (there are around 50 pages), and then concatenate them into one file using some pdf tool.)

Note that Most's approach is rather different from that of Hans Orberg, of Lingua Latina per se Illustrata. He (Most) does not hesitate to give definitions of new words in a lesson, along with grammatical explanations. But after having studied these explanations, he wants you to concentrate fully on the text. At least, it seems this way to me. You can read the teacher's manual for a fuller explanation of his method. Also, more discussion of the method (in French) can be found on this page:

https://cerclelatin.org/wiki/Home

(edited for typos, and small clarifications)

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:08 am**

MorkTheFiddle wrote:Not sure where to post this. Apologies if it should not go here. A couple more resources for Latin and Ancient Greek that differ, I hope, from the resources already posted.
2. Hiberna Caroli Raetici http://hiberna-cr.wikidot.com/start

Well, yes, I'm replying to myself. But Reineke already mentioned some of the books in this link, but there are a few more. In addition, the OP gives a brief description of each source and groups them into levels of difficulty. If as alleged nobody follows links, here is the heart of the link:

So here is a small selection of texts:
Level 1: Absolute beginners

Primus Annus (Cyril Lyttleton Mainwaring and Walter Lionel Paine, 1912).
Puer Romanus (Reginald Bainbridge Appleton and William Henry Samuel Jones, 1913).
Cornelia (Mima Maxey, 1933): this book provides a continuous text beginning at the easiest level possible but advancing as the story unfolds. Of all the listed texts, this one is the easiest.
Carolus et Maria (Marjorie J. Fay, 1933): this book starts at the easiest level possible and provides a continuous story.
Julia - A Latin Reading Book (Maud Reed, 1941): For absolute beginners as well, difficulty level increases continually, with a few passages from Latin poets interspersed, however (can be safely ignored).
Narrationes Faciles de Historia Romanorum: a large selection of easy texts concerning Roman history (or legend) compiled by John P. Piazza. Scroll to Latin history narratives.
Narrationes Faciles de Mythologia Romana Graecaque: a selection of easy texts concerning Roman and Greek mythology compiled by John P. Piazza. Scroll to Latin mythology narratives.
Colloquia Latina (Benjamin D'Ooge, 1888): a series of dialogues for beginners.

Level 2: Beginners

[i]Ora Maritima[/i] (E.A. Sonnenschein, 1927): this book also contains a continuous story, however, with the additional benefit, that Evan Millner (LATINUM-podcast) has created an audio version of it.
Pro Patria (E.A. Sonnenschein, 1907): this book is a sequel to "Ora Maritima" by the same author.
Latin Stories for Reading or Telling (W.H.D. Rouse, 1935)
Varius Libellus ad usum scholarum (U.E Paoli, 1961)
Ritchie's Fabulae Faciles (F. Ritchie/J. Copeland Kirtland, 1905): these are the well known stories about Perseus, Hercules, the Argonauts, and Ulysses by Francis Ritchie.
A First Latin Reader (H.C. Nutting, 1912): this Latin reader is special in that a large part of it does not treat Roman history but that of America.
A Latin Reader For The Lower Forms In School (H.J. Hardy, 1889): another book with short and unique Latin stories.
Ciceronis filius (U.E Paoli, 1964): once you have learned all the grammar, this is an ideal introduction to the ordinary world of the ancient Romans. Definitely a must-have.
Corderii Colloquiorum Centuria Selecta (Corderius/John Clarke, 1759): this book is different from the other in that it does not contain stories but dialogues. It is an ideal starting point for anyone interested in learning how to speak Latin (or write dialogues in that Latin). As an aside: a modern phrase book containing only a few dialogues but many lists of important phrases and respective vocabulary is John C. Traupman's Conversational Latin for Oral Proficiency.

I say a bit more about a couple of these in my log. Here: Mork's log

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:55 am**

Lance Piantaggini's basic short novellas are excellent for those who are teaching themselves. One of the keys in reading fluency in Latin is to stop reading as if you were in a class taught by the grammar translation method (i.e. finding the subject, then looking at the back of the sentence for the verb and then the objects, etc). These short books help train that skill. He also does audio for the books.

https://magisterp.com/novellas/

Posted: **Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:17 pm**

A "Curriculum" of sorts listing 'made-up' Latin texts from easiest to more difficult can be found at Textkit. The heart of the 'curriculum' is at the end. The earlier posts of the thread give rationales and word counts for the suggested texts.
I have read only a few of the texts in the list, but eyeballing them suggests the list should be useful to someone beginning or reviewing Latin. I would post the whole thread, but maybe copyright disallows it. https://tinyurl.com/s54bcus You don't have to be a member to access posts on Textkit (I don't think).

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:07 pm**

MorkTheFiddle wrote:https://tinyurl.com/s54bcus You don't have to be a member to access posts on Textkit (I don't think).

You can perfectly access it as a guest.

Here's a link to the same thing, without using tinyurl (which I'd distrust along with bitly and the like, especially outside Twitter where at least you can argue is necessary due to the length limit) and also without the green highlight you forgot to remove:

https://www.textkit.com/greek-latin-for ... 04#p204904

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 9:34 pm**

Dr. Charles Weiss of the University of Cambridge posts on his web page a pot pourri of Latin learning references ranging from dictionaries to wordlists to commentaries to histories and more. He includes similar resources for Ancient Greek as well. CW's Ancient Greek and Latin language page

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:21 pm**

A few courses, grammars, and readers can be found in the following post.

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