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Re: Learning With Texts (LWT) has been discontinued and deleted

Postby Cainntear » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:28 pm

Xenops wrote:Wait, didn't Duolingo purchase Readlang? Or am I thinking of something else?

Steve was hired as a software engineer by Duolingo to work on Duolingo stories -- they didn't buy out Readlang. He stopped working on the site when he took the job, and I believe he switched everyone to the free tier rather than cancelling it.

It looks like they told him it was OK to continue the site, as it's definitely been updated since then and they're taking premium subscriptions again.
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Re: Learning With Texts (LWT) has been discontinued and deleted

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:47 pm

rdearman wrote:
ivargas2 wrote:
MorkTheFiddle wrote:
Cainntear wrote: It'll probably be possible to get it working on Linux until the fall of civilisation though. ;-)

LWT depends on mySql and EasyPHPDevServer. Any change in them could affect the functioning of LWT, and, in fact, has already done so. And the developer himself once noted that he could not keep up with all the various distributions of Linux, so there is another potential break. In my humble opinion, without a developer to maintain LWT, sooner or later it will break permanently.


What would you do then? I'm in my first month using LWT, with more than 5000 words and doing all my reading studies there. I used to use Lingq, but things got tough here in Argentina, so I decided to look for something cheap(or free) and I found LWT. My concern is, could I lose all my texts imported into LWT? I just don't want to lose time and put the effort in vain.

you won't lose anything. The program is installed on your machine, so as long as you're backing up the database (LWT has an option for that) then you'll be able to use the version you have for as long as you want.

I back up my LWT file almost daily and store a copy of it on Google Drive.
Occasionally there is a glitch in the database, and I have to use Easy PHP for a repair, but the app itself is quite stable.
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Re: Learning With Texts (LWT) has been discontinued and deleted

Postby ivargas2 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:19 am

rdearman wrote:
ivargas2 wrote:
MorkTheFiddle wrote:
Cainntear wrote: It'll probably be possible to get it working on Linux until the fall of civilisation though. ;-)

LWT depends on mySql and EasyPHPDevServer. Any change in them could affect the functioning of LWT, and, in fact, has already done so. And the developer himself once noted that he could not keep up with all the various distributions of Linux, so there is another potential break. In my humble opinion, without a developer to maintain LWT, sooner or later it will break permanently.


What would you do then? I'm in my first month using LWT, with more than 5000 words and doing all my reading studies there. I used to use Lingq, but things got tough here in Argentina, so I decided to look for something cheap(or free) and I found LWT. My concern is, could I lose all my texts imported into LWT? I just don't want to lose time and put the effort in vain.

you won't lose anything. The program is installed on your machine, so as long as you're backing up the database (LWT has an option for that) then you'll be able to use the version you have for as long as you want.


That's better then. I'm kinda new to this, thanks!!
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Re: Learning With Texts (LWT) has been discontinued and deleted

Postby rdearman » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:08 am

But since you can't get the source code anymore you might want to backup your lwt folder also periodically.
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Re: Learning With Texts (LWT) has been discontinued and deleted

Postby Stefan » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:08 am

rdearman wrote:But since you can't get the source code anymore you might want to backup your lwt folder also periodically.

There are mirrors, for the time being: https://gitlab.com/paraplegicracehorse/ ... with-texts
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Postby eldarion » Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:19 pm

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Re: Learning With Texts (LWT) has been discontinued and deleted

Postby tangleweeds » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:01 am

Totally OT: Why do the SourceForge pages say this?
And please NEVER download the software from GitLab or GitHub repositories!
Are there some kind of politics going on here that I'm ignorant of?
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Re: Learning With Texts (LWT) has been discontinued and deleted

Postby Doitsujin » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:55 am

tangleweeds wrote:Totally OT: Why do the SourceForge pages say this?
And please NEVER download the software from GitLab or GitHub repositories!
Are there some kind of politics going on here that I'm ignorant of?


My guess is that whoever re-uploaded LWT:

a) had a hard time finding the latest version and wants to make sure that language learners don't download outdated versions
b) simply doesn't trust or like Github.

Hopefully, the uploader will clarify his/her anti-Github stance.
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Re: Learning With Texts (LWT) has been discontinued and deleted

Postby Ingaræð » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:11 pm

This is from the changelog in the above-mentioned version 2.0.0 (modified from the previous version 1.6.3):

Changelog - [↑]

2.0.0 (October 04 2020):
No code changes. Sourceforge links corrected.
The old links [lwt.sf.net], [lwt.sourceforge.net] or [sourceforge.net/projects/lwt] are no longer valid!
The new links are now learning-with-texts.sourceforge.io (documentation and demo database) and sourceforge.net/projects/learning-with-texts (project home and downloads).

1.6.3 (April 06 2020):
Some missing confirmation dialogues (when deleting a single text, text tag, term, term tag, or language) added.


1.6.3 was the last official version, and if you have that then there seems to be little reason to 'upgrade' at present. Version 1.6.0 was dated 2016-01-28. I get the impression that someone is touting an 'upgrade' for their own reasons...

I would say that the GitLab/GitHub repos are absolutely fine unless someone can prove otherwise. Edit: I already had a copy of 1.6.3, but downloaded the installation instructions from GitLab and they were fine.
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