Who needs another frequency dictionary when we have Wikipedia?

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Who needs another frequency dictionary when we have Wikipedia?

Postby mentecuerpo » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:57 pm

Who needs another frequency dictionary when we have Wikipedia?

I know there are multiple free word frequency lists in many languages online.
Take a look at this one for Spanish:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_comm ... in_Spanish

However, I still find it useful to have a physical book that I can brose before going to bed.

I find this series useful: Mostusedwords.com

Some features:
Words are listed from number one to 2K and more terms.
IPA pronunciation.
The part of the speech.
Each word includes a context phrase with the English Translation.

At the end of the book, there is a mini dictionary with all the alphabetical order words, including the frequency list number.
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Re: Who needs another frequency dictionary when we have Wikipedia?

Postby 白田龍 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:47 am

But are Wikipedia's frequency lists even lemmatized?
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Re: Who needs another frequency dictionary when we have Wikipedia?

Postby devilyoudont » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:21 pm

I would be extremely skeptical about this regarding any smaller language.
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Re: Who needs another frequency dictionary when we have Wikipedia?

Postby Gordafarin2 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:37 pm

I'm a little confused why the topic title is about Wikipedia when your post is about this hard copy book?

Anyway, the main thing about frequency lists is that they're only as useful as the source they're taken from. A frequency list from Wikipedia over-emphasizes words like "pronunciation", "category", "ranking", and technical terms... Subtitles emphasize casual language, but only the subject matter you find in TV & movies. Newspapers over-represent government-related words. Which is great if you're training to be a diplomat, but maybe not if your interests and learning goals lie elsewhere.

I've collected lists for Persian - there's a subtitle corpus, a newspaper corpus, a poetry corpus, a Wikipedia one... they're all dramatically different from each other.

So I always like to know the source of my frequency list, to make sure it's in line with my goals. Even better, I like to make my own from the books / series that I'm studying, giving me a leg up on understanding the specific style of the material.
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Persian... 10 novels: 4 / 10

Mandarin...
4000 words: 4000 / 4000 / 2000 characters: 1640 / 2000

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Re: Who needs another frequency dictionary when we have Wikipedia?

Postby addylad » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:38 pm

Just don't trust the Scots one. :lol:
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