Does anyone have any resources to recommend for learning to identity where a particular Spanish accent is from?
So far, only the "obvious" things tip me off: "vosotros" and the Spainish Z sound, or the marked y/ll of Argentina, or dropped syllable-final S of the Caribbean region(?). I'd love to fine-tune my perception so I could distinguish between the various Latin American countries better.
Ear-training to distinguish between Spanish dialects
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Re: Ear-training to distinguish between Spanish dialects
I guess this is what you're looking for.... >> catálogo de voces hispánicas on Cervantes.
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彥::Charles wrote:I guess this is what you're looking for.... >> catálogo de voces hispánicas on Cervantes.
Ideally I'm looking for a guide or explanation. But that's a great starting point, so thanks!
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Re: Ear-training to distinguish between Spanish dialects
speakinglatino.com publishes books on the particularities of most (if not all) the Spanish speaking countries. I have not read any of their books, but a couple of them are on my list.
Additionally, Cassell's Colloquial Spanish is a classic resource and in each entry it references the country or region of origin. It is organized like a dictionary. It is a superb resource.
Additionally, Cassell's Colloquial Spanish is a classic resource and in each entry it references the country or region of origin. It is organized like a dictionary. It is a superb resource.
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arthaey wrote:the marked y/ll of Argentina, or dropped syllable-final S of the Caribbean region
Uruguay is generally forgotten, but phonetically it seems to share the key features with Argentina. The vocabulary has some differences of course.
I thought dropping the final S (or more precisely replacing it with an h, weaker than j) is common all over Latin America? At least I can guarantee that I've heard commentators from Argentina and Uruguay doing that.
This app/site is supposed to cover all the sounds existing in the different varieties of Spanish
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Serpent wrote:I thought dropping the final S (or more precisely replacing it with an h, weaker than j) is common all over Latin America? At least I can guarantee that I've heard commentators from Argentina and Uruguay doing that.
Some of gulf coast Mexico will drop the final S, but in most of the country it's pretty heavily pronounced. Also, a lot of Central America clearly pronounces the final S.
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Serpent wrote:I thought dropping the final S (or more precisely replacing it with an h, weaker than j) is common all over Latin America? At least I can guarantee that I've heard commentators from Argentina and Uruguay doing that.
In some dialects, final S becomes H; in others, it really is dropped entirely. (Or so say some linguistic papers I've skimmed. )
You're right that it's not just the Caribbean, although I believe it is a common feature of that particular region. Within Mexico, I believe it's much more common for those on the Gulf coast than elsewhere in the country. And while I've heard other dialects do it, I've also heard plenty of Latin American speakers who retain their S's.
So... I guess a dropped S can't be relied on to tell you anything at all.
In fact, the first time I encountered the dropped-S accent, I was in Cáceres, Spain, as a high school student. Until I realized what was going on, I was very confused about whether people were using tú or [i]usted[/u] with me.
Serpent wrote:This app/site is supposed to cover all the sounds existing in the different varieties of Spanish
Very cool! Although it still isn't the compare & contrast of dialects that I was hoping for. I'm beginning to wonder if such a resource even exists...
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Re: Ear-training to distinguish between Spanish dialects
Another distinguishing feature you can look out for appears in some Mexican accents: the reduction of unstressed vowels between two "s" sounds, as in "veces" or "meses," so that the "e" basically disappears and it almost sounds like two "s" sounds in a row.
There is also the diminutive "-ico/-ica" (ratico, momentico), common in Colombia and in some Caribbean countries.
There is also the diminutive "-ico/-ica" (ratico, momentico), common in Colombia and in some Caribbean countries.
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arthaey wrote:So... I guess a dropped S can't be relied on to tell you anything at all.
In fact, the first time I encountered the dropped-S accent, I was in Cáceres, Spain, as a high school student. Until I realized what was going on, I was very confused about whether people were using tú or [i]usted[/u] with me.
Oops awkward wording. I mostly meant that I thought it indicates someone is from Latin America, not that all/most Latin Americans necessarily speak like that. But it also exists in Spain then?
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Serpent wrote:But it also exists in Spain then?
It definitely exists in southern Spain, very strong in some areas.
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