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Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby rdearman » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:23 pm

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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby vonPeterhof » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:33 pm

Good news for learners of Western Armenian - since April there's finally a separate Western Armenian Wikipedia!
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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby Asfaloth » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:01 pm

Speakeasy wrote:Armenian on the LLORG and the HTLAL
Assimil Armenian with Ease (Arménien de poche)
Fuhggedaboudit! There were discussions on the HTLAL, in October 2008, of a soon-to-be-released “Assimil Armenian with Ease” course for which the publisher had already registered an I.S.B.N. However, it would appear that Assimil determined that the market potential was insufficient to support the development of a full course and, instead, published a phrase book under the title “Arménien de poche” for which audio recordings are regrettably not available.
https://www.amazon.fr/LArm%C3%A9nien-poche-conversation-Robert-Avak/dp/2700505557/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=17SOPMANDEJLN&keywords=arm%C3%A9nien&qid=1565133841&s=gateway&sprefix=ARM%C3%89N%2Caps%2C234&sr=8-2

Notice that there does exist a (sadly out of print, as far as I understand) full French-based L’Arménien sans peine by Assimil for the Eastern variety.
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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby Speakeasy » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:26 pm

@Asfaloth, what a terrific discovery! Whilst preparing this list of resources, I searched Amazon.fr but did not come across a listing for "Assimil l'arménien sans peine." Curiously, subsequent to your post, I conducted a second search and discovered several listings for this course: https://www.amazon.fr/s?k=assimil+l%27arm%C3%A9nien&__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&ref=nb_sb_noss. Yup, it really did exist! Although one Amazon Customer evaluated the course as being "complicated and ineffective", the other reviewers were, unsurprisingly for this publisher, quite positive. Now all we need is a campaign to convince Assimil to reissue the course (unlikely to happen). In the meantime, I will amend the list of resources. Merci!
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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby Daristani » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:34 pm

Some comments on a couple of the materials cited above:

1) I've got a physical copy of the Assimil "L'Armenien Sans Peine", and so can confirm its existence, even if it's no longer in print . It also has a shadow existence on the internet, as PDFs and the audio have been floating around for a number of years. It deals with the eastern dialect.

2) The original Bardakjian/Thompson Western Armenian textbook cited above is now in the public domain. The original version was published by Caravan Books in 1977 and explicitly states that copyright was claimed until 1987, after which it would be in the public domain. Two places to download the PDF are:

https://vdocuments.mx/a-textbook-of-mod ... enian.html

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md ... F1F0A050D4

Note that the audio posted by the University of Michigan at the second site listed above by Speakeasy ( https://umich.app.box.com/v/UM-FLACS-Mo ... rnArmenian ) is missing the second CD. (I haven't been able to find the missing portion, and the University contact person didn't respond to me when I asked about this a couple of years ago.)

A somewhat revised and more attractively printed version of the book was published more recently by Bardakjian and Bert Vaux and is available in print-on-demand (at a very reasonable price) from:

http://www.lulu.com/shop/bert-vaux-and- ... 66771.html

I don't think any new audio was produced for this newer version.

3) Another book, which I suspect was never actually published, is listed on Amazon and elsewhere: It's "Eastern Armenian: A Textbook", likewise by Bardakjian and Vaux. I don't think the publisher is in business any longer, and I've never seen a physical copy for sale anywhere. Mysteriously, however, a PDF shows up at https://vdocuments.mx/eastern-armenian-textbook.html
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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby Speakeasy » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:18 pm

@Daristani, thank you very much, as always, your elaborations are much appreciated! I have inserted comments in the list of Armenian Resources above.
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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby David1917 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:23 pm

There is a brief preview of Buske's Armenian course, for those that can handle German, in this video:

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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby Asfaloth » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:37 pm

Daristani wrote:Some comments on a couple of the materials cited above:
Note that the audio posted by the University of Michigan at the second site listed above by Speakeasy ( https://umich.app.box.com/v/UM-FLACS-Mo ... rnArmenian ) is missing the second CD. (I haven't been able to find the missing portion, and the University contact person didn't respond to me when I asked about this a couple of years ago.)

I asked the same question a few weeks ago, and they told me that as far as they know the second CD does not exist at all, and that the weird numbering was chosen in order to mimic the names of the original audio cassettes when they were digitised (which skipped a few lessons from the book).
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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby Daristani » Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:27 pm

Yet another free Armenian resource that I ran across by chance today. It's a short textbook by Arshak Balayan for the eastern dialect:

https://slaviccenters.duke.edu/sites/sl ... menian.pdf

No audio.
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Re: Armenian (Haieren, Hayeren) Resources

Postby Speakeasy » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:28 pm

Daristani wrote:Yet another free Armenian resource that I ran across by chance today. It's a short textbook by Arshak Balayan for the eastern dialect: ttps://slaviccenters.duke.edu/sites/sla ... menian.pdf
No audio.
Once again, many thanks, Daristani! I have entered the item in the list of resources.
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