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Re: BBC Language Courses

Postby dlw28 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:10 pm

And Buongiorno Italia (sorry for the previous typo - I don't know how to edit existing posts) was followed by L'Italia dal Vivo , second stage radio course in 1983. Again the audios are currently on the website above.
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Postby Speakeasy » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:50 pm

dlw28 wrote: ... I don't know how to edit existing posts ...
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Re: BBC Language Courses

Postby Speakeasy » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:09 pm

elexi wrote:A Vous La France/BBC French Master
- A 80s course that is largely based on interviews and learning phrases. This is a beginners course. The French Master course is a self-teaching version of A Vous La France that has a lot more English in it and 4 VHS videos…
There is presently a pristine copy of the BBC French Master course on auction on eBay.co.uk. Had this been BBC German Master, I would have kept this information to myself. :mrgreen:

VINTAGE BBC LANGUAGE LEARNING COURSE BOX SET - FRENCH MASTER
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Re: BBC Language Courses

Postby dlw28 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:51 am

I haven't used this forum for a while. I found a PM from Elexi asking if I was the person who maintained the Youtube site with the BBC audios. I don't know how to respond to this PM. I'm not the owner, but I believe that the owner's email address is mike195771@gmail.com.
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Re: BBC Language Courses

Postby Le Baron » Wed May 15, 2024 1:07 pm

I have a lot of these BBC books. Some of them I got from my old school when they were going to throw them away. Some I got from a college when they were doing the same. All 'upgrading'.

I have some French ones still at my dad;s house in England: Sur le vif (only the first or second part), Allez France (which I think is higher than the A2 noted in the op), À vous la France, France Extra! and later one called Franc Parler. In that last one some student had written notes all over the pages and drawn genitals inside the front cover!
Of the Spanish ones I have there's: Digame!, Por Aqui and Zarabanda. Italian: Italianissimo (only one of the books), Buongiorno Italia, L'Italia del vivo. There's another older one, but I'd have to dig it out. German: Deutsche Direkt, Kein Problem, Wegweiser, Kontakt (only book 3), Deutsche Express (which we used at school).

I also have a copy of Hindi-Urdu bol chaal. Though my dad has a bad habit of throwing away books he thinks are worthless. I hid most of them in his attic out of his clutches.
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Re: BBC Language Courses

Postby jeffers » Wed May 15, 2024 7:43 pm

I just spotted this thread for the first time, and I had no idea of the number of interesting language courses the BBC produced. As a payer of the license fee that supports the Beeb, I'm annoyed that they don't make these courses available on their iPlayer.
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Re: BBC Language Courses

Postby Le Baron » Wed May 15, 2024 10:17 pm

jeffers wrote:I just spotted this thread for the first time, and I had no idea of the number of interesting language courses the BBC produced. As a payer of the license fee that supports the Beeb, I'm annoyed that they don't make these courses available on their iPlayer.

I used to watch loads of the on the Open University broadcasts and when they were on the radio. I remember listening to Ganz Spontan! and Deutsch Express when they were broadcast and even recorded some episodes. Also Get By In Russian.

In the 60s and 70s there were a lot of Russian courses on the BBC, mirroring the popularity of the language in universities and elsewhere. I was using courses recorded from the radio by local libraries. The school library even had some. They whittled it down mostly to FIGS in the last few years, except for some Chinese. That Deutsche Plus was still on BBC Two around 2010 before they dumped through the night educational programmes.

When I was at school they were still showing these two ancient ones from the late 1970s. The bottom video is one I don't remember, before my time, but there's a good 16 minutes of it. On YT you can watch the entire TV series of Deutsch Direkt and many others, like Russian Language And People, courtesy of that Mike K Warrington fellow's channel.





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Re: BBC Language Courses

Postby Le Baron » Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:07 pm

Since posting the above post I decided to do quite some rooting about on the internet, because ever since the BBC closed down its active languages website around 2016 or so (might have been earlier), there was still a lot to be found. Even then access to older stuff was simply non-existent. I know because I tried.

When I was at school there was a room where you could go which had a video machine and TV and a large library of cassettes of many things, including a huge number of language programmes which had been recorded from TV broadcasts as early as the late 70s; when some schools had old toggle-button video recorders which probably cost a bomb at the time. They would copy these to new cassettes regularly. In any case these were held there for pupils to use for study purposes and class use.

There was also a very extensive audio cassette library. I remember that I would take some of these out of the library (legitimately!) and make copies of them at home. I had copies of several German radio series. Some of the cassettes there were official audio cassettes that had been purchased or ordered from the schools' supplementary resources unit the BBC had.

The thing is that many of those probably don't even exist now in the BBC's own archive, because they were well-known for trashing their own archives by sending even master tapes to the wiping room stamped with 'no further interest'. All the stuff about Doctor Who and other TV classics is well-known, but the mystery of what happened to the enormous stock of language programming is unknown. Just consider that the BBC first started broadcasting foreign language-learning programming from 1924. Some recorded, some not. By the '40s fair bit of it was recorded, after the 50s pretty much all of it. There were over 200 separate radio courses broadcast by the BBC from about the late 50s to the end. A huge number of TV-based productions, all for different languages, with the supplementary materials.

Take the case of German though. There was a series called 'German Shorts'. I remember watching it, but if you look now it simply no longer exists. They obliterated their reference page on the BBC's entire website. But why? You can replicate this for dozens of these programmes. Anyone who made recordings of these probably own the only existing copies. Even though they wiped out a lot of other things as well, there seems to have been a particularly brutal decimation of the languages archive. However no-one even knows what they still do have, because the archive isn't open to scrutiny. They made some search engine called the 'Programme index', but using it to try and find these old programmes brings up nothing.

There is a site called Broadcast for Schools.co.uk which actually does list a huge number of them, but it's the only record I know of. It's really outrageous.
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