Speak Dutch (Modern Dutch, A First Year College Level Audio Lingual Dutch Course)

[Speakeasy]

I am opening a new discussion thread on the subject of "Speak Dutch". In response to my questions concerning this language course, fellow Forum Member "ownerzeff" provided the following information:

It is right here: http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED024029

Unfortunaltey, I have no experience with the book itself. I was just searching for audio lingual books in general in HTLAL and in one of the threads I read it by chance. After that I googled it and found it on eric. I have glanced at it and it is certainly FSI style.

Furthermore, http://www.iu.edu/~celtie/dutch_archive.html, here there is the audio but copyright restrections apply for them so I have no way to open it, since I am not a registered user.

I hope it helps.

And I replied as follows:

Hello Ownerzeff,
Thank you for your reply as well as the links to the materials. I am nonplussed by my lack of success in locating these files through my own searchs; merci beaucoup!

Fellow Forum Member "daristani" has sent me an Email commenting on the subject of "Speak Dutch" textbook and audio files. As a follow-up to our exchanges (yours, mine, his), I will open a new discussion thread on "Speak Dutch" as I will be asking the Director of the Indiana CeLT to release the audio recordings to the public and I would like the discussion recorded separately. Thanks again for your comments and, once again, my public thanks to daristani for his support.

I have sent an Email requesting that the above-mentioned audio recordings be released to the public. The possibility exists that the copyright to the textbook, which is freely available on ERIC, and the copyright to the audio recordings, which are subject to restricted access on the CeLT, are held by different persons/organisations. Thus, while we can hope for a favourable outcome, there is no guarantee. My thanks, once again, to "ownerzeff" and "daristani".

[aokoye]

The book is clearly still in copyright, at least in terms of years past publication, but I wonder if it's a case of the US government releasing the textbook on their own terms in regards to making it free for people to download. Even if the tapes held the same copyright I don't think make them automatically free to the general public.

[Speakeasy]

In response to my request to remove the restriction on these recorded materials, the Center for Language Technology (CeLT), Indiana University advised me that they could not find specific copyright information pertaining to these audio materials and, quite naturally erring on the side of caution, considers that if a copyright was registered for these materials, it would still be in effect. Thus, the materials remain restricted to registered students.

In an attempt to seek authority for the release of these materials, I have sent a request to the publisher of the textbook, Calvin College, in the person of Frederik Meijer, Chair in Dutch Language and Culture at the college. If Mr. Meijer is not in a position to authorize the release of these materials, I will abandon this small project. .

You win some, you lose some.

[Speakeasy]

Would anyone happen to have the audio files for "Speak Dutch (Modern Dutch: a first year college level audio-lingual course for the Dutch language)"? While used copies of the course books are still available on the Internet, I have been unable to locate a source for the accompanying audio cassettes. As I remarked above, Indiana University hosts the sound files on their CeLt website, but will not release them to the public without specific permission to do so from the holder of the copyright. Unfortunately, my four requests to the publisher, Calvin College, requesting that they either grant the requisite permission or provide information on how I might locate the audio cassettes, have gone unanswered!

[diplomaticus]

http://www.worldcat.org/title/speak-dut ... c/14515739

Perhaps someone lives near Oberlin? 20 cassettes seems like a nice chunk of material.

[guyome]

The 20 cassettes of Lagerwey's Speak Dutch have been available since last July at https://digitalcommons.calvin.edu.

[rowanexer]

The 20 cassettes of Lagerwey's Speak Dutch have been available since last July at https://digitalcommons.calvin.edu.

Thanks so much for letting us know, guyome! Really excited to see a free course with a focus on pronunciation. I'm not learning Dutch currently but I will keep this in mind for the future!

[Ug_Caveman_Backup]

The 20 cassettes of Lagerwey's Speak Dutch have been available since last July at https://digitalcommons.calvin.edu.

Finally, they are no longer a lost treasure to the world... I shall leave Edmund Blackadder to sum up my feelings at this point:

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[guyome]

You're welcome, rowanexer!
I'm not studying Dutch either, "but tomorrow - who knows, or dares to dream"?

My pleasure, Ug_Caveman (always nice to meet a fellow Blackadder fan)!
Yes, I'm glad these useful resources are preserved. Props to Calvin University for digitizing those.

[Le Baron]

Be aware that on those recordings tape 13 (les 17) is a horrible unintelligible recording, but the other side of the cassette, les 18, is fine. It's the same story with tape 16, but you can hear the first half a bit better and after 29 minutes it's normal.

On VLC I used the equaliser to knock off some of the distortion (bass).