is google translate wrong in word detection for arabic ?

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is google translate wrong in word detection for arabic ?

Postby jimmy » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:51 am

hi,

although I conclude most of words with ت or ة it returns the conclusion of words in ه
why?

for instance تفحت means apple but it returns تفاحه as apple in translation.

both are same?
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Re: is google translate wrong in word detection for arabic ?

Postby Samer » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:33 pm

Hi Jimmy,

Well, to start off, the singular apple in Arabic is properly spelled تفاحة, while plural is تفاح (i.e not تفحت).

As for the ta'a marbuta تاء مربوطة, I suspect that Google Translate gets it wrong because of the data it was trained on, it gets a lot of things wrong although it has been improving. The orthography rule is dead easy for native speakers but people usually ignore it for the sake of convenience.
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Re: is google translate wrong in word detection for arabic ?

Postby jimmy » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:42 pm

mmm but here may I ask whether these are different (or what is the difference,I think there is no difference but..)

1) تفحت
2) تفاحة
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Re: is google translate wrong in word detection for arabic ?

Postby jimmy » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:43 pm

meanwhile,thanks for your reply.
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Re: is google translate wrong in word detection for arabic ?

Postby Hashimi » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:49 pm

In Kurdish, Persian, and other languages, words of Arabic origin ending with "taa marbuta" ة or ـة are ended with "regular taa" ت or ـت. So طريقة became طريقت, and حكمة became حكمت.
But Arabs usually pronounce this final taa as هـ ه (or don't pronounce it at all) except in the genitive case. For example, "my father's car" سيارة أبي is pronounced "sayyarat abi", but "I have a car" عندي سيارة is pronounced "3indi sayyara" or "sayyarah".
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Re: is google translate wrong in word detection for arabic ?

Postby jimmy » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:35 pm

according to my new learnings,

this "ta marbutah" is for making feminine form of nouns or subjects.

like this:

1) طالِبٌ
2) طالِبَةٌ

the first word means a male student and the second one is for female student

also, there are two more types but I could not understand one of that well (with ي)
إ seems like clear (li انتإِ or more correctly (presumably) انتاِ )
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Re: is google translate wrong in word detection for arabic ?

Postby MostafaNashaat » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:19 am

jimmy wrote:mmm but here may I ask whether these are different (or what is the difference,I think there is no difference but..)

1) تفحت
2) تفاحة


Actually we don't have this word (تفحت) in Arabic. It has no meaning. تفاحة is the correct one

Please let me know if you any further assistance
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