Learning Italian....congiuntivo

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Learning Italian....congiuntivo

Postby nnmmss » Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:59 am

Hello

I want to say this sentence in Italian
"I think I have forgotten all I have read"

"Penso che io mi dimentichi tutte le cose ho letto"

is the sentence true. I am not sure how should I use "congiuntivo" for reflessiv verbo.

Thanks for help
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Re: Learning Italian....congiuntivo

Postby Iversen » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:46 pm

I am not an Italian, but I would just use the indicative there because we are speaking about a fact. But the subjunctive if the original sentence had been "I think I may (or might) have forgotten all I have read" - and subjunctive "abbia letto" if it had been "... all I have ever read". And "che ho letto", by the way. In some cases you can leave out the conjunction, but I doubt that it's the case here

Maybe I should consult my Italian grammar to reread the rules ... I don't like the thought that I didn't remember the ones that pertain to precisely these situations.
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Re: Learning Italian....congiuntivo

Postby tastyonions » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:17 am

Not a native speaker.

I’d use the infinitive: penso di essermi dimenticato tutte le cose che ho letto (or: tutto quello che ho letto).
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Re: Learning Italian....congiuntivo

Postby dedalus66 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:50 am

I would probably go with something simpler: "penso di aver dimenticato tutto quello che ho letto". No need for the subjunctive - note: not a native speaker.
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Re: Learning Italian....congiuntivo

Postby garyb » Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:55 am

dedalus66 wrote:I would probably go with something simpler: "penso di aver dimenticato tutto quello che ho letto". No need for the subjunctive - note: not a native speaker.
Exactly what I'd have said too. The subjunctive would be used if the subject of the main clause is different from the subject of the relative clause: "[Io] penso che lui abbia dimenticato..."
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