Persian Frequency lists

[Beli Tsar]

While there are a few frequency lists for Persian/Farsi (1000 words, 10,000 words) none of the ones I have found have either vowels or pronunciation - making them near useless for the new learner.

Has anyone discovered a frequency list, in any format, that has one of these?

Thanks!

[Deinonysus]

I took a look at Memrise, and this might be what you're looking for:

https://www.memrise.com/course/786354/1 ... iteration/

It has the 1000 most common Persian words transliterated into Latin script, with audio and Persian script as well. I have no idea what the source is or how good the quality is, because I don't know any Persian.

[jonm]

Routledge's Persian frequency dictionary has pronunciations. It's not cheap, but I'm scrolling through it on Google Books and so far it hasn't skipped any pages. No way to copy-paste though, if that's important.

[Beli Tsar]

I took a look at Memrise, and this might be what you're looking for:

https://www.memrise.com/course/786354/1 ... iteration/

It has the 1000 most common Persian words transliterated into Latin script, with audio and Persian script as well. I have no idea what the source is or how good the quality is, because I don't know any Persian.

Thanks, I really appreciate that - sadly this doesn't seem to be finished; they only got to a couple of hundred words. Maybe they will, someday...

[Beli Tsar]

Routledge's Persian frequency dictionary has pronunciations. It's not cheap, but I'm scrolling through it on Google Books and so far it hasn't skipped any pages. No way to copy-paste though, if that's important.

It really isn't cheap - definitely beyond what I can justify, sadly.

It looks like a marvellous resource.

But I hadn't thought of looking on Google books - so thank you for that! I hadn't realised it has sample sentences, too...

[jonm]

It really isn't cheap - definitely beyond what I can justify, sadly.

It looks like a marvellous resource.

But I hadn't thought of looking on Google books - so thank you for that! I hadn't realised it has sample sentences, too...

Yeah, their frequency dictionaries are really good but unfortunately quite expensive. I can't justify them either. I'm learning Persian too, so will definitely keep an eye out for other options...

[Beli Tsar]

I'm learning Persian too, so will definitely keep an eye out for other options...

Excellent. I'll let you know if I find anything good.

I hope you get a chance to post in your log about how you are learning Persian - is your French good enough to use Assimil + Anki as per your usual method, or are you doing something a bit different?

[jonm]

I hope you get a chance to post in your log about how you are learning Persian - is your French good enough to use Assimil + Anki as per your usual method, or are you doing something a bit different?

Thanks for checking out the log! I am indeed doing Assimil + Anki with the French-base Assimil Persian course. I've only done the first 14 lessons (and I'm not doing a lesson every day), but I really like it so far. It's one of the Assimil courses with a fairly gentle learning curve. As of lesson 14, I've probably learned about 50 words, and the writing system is still being introduced. I know some people prefer the Assimil courses that pack more into each lesson, but I like this pace. Each lesson introduces a couple new things and reinforces what's come before. So doing a new lesson feels like a light, fun undertaking, not like I'm biting off more than I can chew. (At the other extreme is the Assimil Hindi course, which I like a lot too, but it's way more dense.)

How about you, what approach are you taking with your Anki cards? And I see in your signature that you've been reading... Anything you'd recommend?

[白田龍]

There's a 2000 Core vocabulary at https://www.persianpod101.com/ . I have saved it during my free premium week when I was first learning Persian.

But I have to disagree that a frequency list without vowels is useless. Persian does not have a great number of homographs, most words only have one pronunciation that you can look up on a dictionary. (try http://www.vajehyab.com/ ) But on the other hand those frequency lists are probably useless anyway, if they list unlemmatized forms.

[Beli Tsar]

How about you, what approach are you taking with your Anki cards?

My approach has been fairly varied so far - the focus is core vocabulary, and some basic grammar rules and verb forms. And I'm working througho one of the the memrise 'Basic Farsi' courses, which is a mix of vocabulary with sentences. The vocabulary selection isn't amazing, but I find the two-way practice with verbs in context pretty helpful, as are the word order puzzles for sentences. I don't find Persian syntax particularly intuitive!

And I see in your signature that you've been reading... Anything you'd recommend?

So far mostly easy learners stuff on LingQ. I wanted to use Readlang, but I'm enjoying having premade reader-type stuff with full audio. I wanted to get into reading quickly, since I work with Iranians and a lot of the relevant vocabulary will only come through reading relevant texts. Even the big dictionaries (I have Haim) don't have it all.

In a few weeks I'll shift to the Bible and or a classic I can get as an audiobook. Again, tracking down books in English, Farsi, and Farsi audiobook has taken a while.

I keep intending to get into a real textbook, but don't much time outside my commute.