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Lawyer&Mom wrote:I was able to jump (akwardly) into native materials after Assimil French, and you are a native speaker of a Romance language! This is very, very doable! I also did the first 1500 words on Memrise, then 20,000 sentences on Clozemaster, with simultaneous immersive reading...
SGP wrote:How exactly could one find reliable courses on Memrise?
This is because there is a lot of content generated by a multitude of users.
And some of these courses were reported to contain a rather large amount of errors.
(Didn't verify it myself, thus saying "were reported to contain", as in "this is what some people mentioned when reviewing it").
And how exactly can Clozemaster be useful for those who already have got a Way Beyond Zero Understanding of a certain language? That one I am asking because I did sense some advancements when I was using it for Spanish, while at the same time I also realized that a not-so-small number of sentences weren't Comprehensible Input to me at that time.
Because back then, while I already had that "Way Beyond Zero Understanding" of Spanish, there were quite many Gaps of Knowledge too. And these gaps caused myself to also being somehow puzzled and micro-confused because of all of these words I didn't know, even if I did know what the "fill in the blank" word that Clozemaster asked me for was.
Just for the purpose of making something double-clear, even if I already made it clear one time in the post you quoted : I didn't say something like "most user made courses are full of mistakes" myself, instead, I only mentioned what I read in some reviews. (And even there, it was about "some of these courses" only.)Cavesa wrote:SGP wrote:How exactly could one find reliable courses on Memrise?
This is because there is a lot of content generated by a multitude of users.
And some of these courses were reported to contain a rather large amount of errors.
(Didn't verify it myself, thus saying "were reported to contain", as in "this is what some people mentioned when reviewing it").
Easily. You ask around, see whether the course looks reliable in general, and you simply accept the fact that the user generated courses are usually still better than the official ones so there is no need to judge the creators so harshly and generalise like "most user made courses are full of mistakes".
Cavesa wrote:The longer courses tend to be of better quality, as they tend to be made by more experienced people putting a lot of time into this anyways, while making a tiny course requires little attention. You can look over a few levels and see for yourself.
And how exactly can Clozemaster be useful for those who already have got a Way Beyond Zero Understanding of a certain language? That one I am asking because I did sense some advancements when I was using it for Spanish, while at the same time I also realized that a not-so-small number of sentences weren't Comprehensible Input to me at that time.
Because back then, while I already had that "Way Beyond Zero Understanding" of Spanish, there were quite many Gaps of Knowledge too. And these gaps caused myself to also being somehow puzzled and micro-confused because of all of these words I didn't know, even if I did know what the "fill in the blank" word that Clozemaster asked me for was.
Cavesa wrote:Hey, stop pointing that lamp in my face! (Really, that is a bit too strong way to ask questions IMHO) but still:
Cavesa wrote:This is normal. We always have some overlaps and some gaps, especially when we switch from one learning tool to another. It requires rushing through the known stuff or using an ignore button (I think there is such a tool in Clozemaster but I am not sure now), and focusing more on the harder stuf.
Cavesa wrote:The whole "Comprehensible Input" theory is beautiful but very artificial and we need to adapt that approach to the real life, or stick to buying prechewed stuff for learners only (which is not always bad, just sometimes expensive and boring and slow paced). Most things you'll encounter will be too easy or too hard, and dealing with that is the language learner's bread and butter.
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