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Re: Vocabulary Tests?

Postby rdearman » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:07 pm

smallwhite wrote:RD: you can count the words in your flashcards and written texts as a start.

Alternatively, you can take a 48000-word English dictionary, preferably one of the same brand as your French one, sample count how many English words you know there, say 30 out of 39, and assume your French vocabulary is 15/30 of your English vocabulary. (The 15 from 15/39).

I don't think that is mathematically valid. Since the two ratios would be completely different.

However, as promised I did the same exercise with the same French dictionary but with more samples. This time I used the other "corner" words on the pages. After an additional 150 samples plus the previous results I'm now showing a vocabulary of 17,073 words. I'm thinking that if I continued with the dictionary I would probably begin to centre somewhere around the 15k mark. Obviously this is just a guess, but there wasn't much change from the larger sampling than my previous one of 18,461. This is a change of only 7.52%. I'm going to call time on this method but I'll try to do a word count from a frequency list and do the maths that way.
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Re: Vocabulary Tests?

Postby s_allard » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:52 pm

I understand why people are obsessed with the idea of vocabulary size. It's some sort of proxy for knowledge of a language. After all, aren't we learning words when we study a language?

I'm all for learning lots of vocabulary for the task at hand. If I don't need it I don't bother learning it. Right now I'm watching a great cooking show in German called Lanz kocht. I hear all the names for various ingredients and things related to cooking. I don't make any attempt to learn these words because I won't need them for my exam.
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Postby tarvos » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:53 pm

I see. When you go to heaven, do you know what Sankt Peter will test you on?
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Re: Vocabulary Tests?

Postby smallwhite » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:34 am

rdearman wrote:I don't think that is mathematically valid. Since the two ratios would be completely different.

It doesn't have to be. It just needs to produce a number that you think is correct.
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Postby rdearman » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:43 pm

tarvos wrote:I see. When you go to heaven, do you know what Sankt Peter will test you on?

Saint Peter gives German language exams now? Wow, I'm screwed.
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Postby tarvos » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:29 pm

Well, according to s_allard, exams are holy.
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Re: Vocabulary Tests?

Postby Iversen » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:48 pm

tarvos wrote:I see. When you go to heaven, do you know what Sankt Peter will test you on?


Ancient Aramaic vocabulary?
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Postby tarvos » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:41 pm

Then I am bound to fail. :p
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Postby Cainntear » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:57 pm

Peter was a polyglot.
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Re: Vocabulary Tests?

Postby tarvos » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:50 pm

Angels are past tense
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