Re: French C2 in one year
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 8:55 pm
A walk in the Jurassic park during a hurricane.
We talk languages
http://forum.language-learners.org/
http://forum.language-learners.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=18045
STT44 wrote:Here's someone who passed JLPT N1 in two years starting at zero. Not quite as dramatic as one year, but still very impressive (plus it's Japanese, immensely more difficult than French).
https://www.sewayou.com/en/blog/how-i-g ... -you-there
To the OP (if he / she ever comes back to this thread), I think I have provided enough examples to show that you most certainly can get the highest level certification in a year if you have the drive, time and the tools. You're starting from B1 while these people started from zero. Don't believe anyone who gives you a flat "It can't be done". It certainly can be done. Whether you can do it is a different matter.
STT44 wrote:Example of someone who started learning Japanese from zero and after 8 months passed the JLPT N1 with a perfect score: https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/ ... 85_months/
STT44 wrote:Example of someone who started learning Japanese from zero and after 8 months passed the JLPT N1 with a perfect score:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/ ... 85_months/
BeaP wrote:One thing that sometimes doesn't get addressed in these threads is whether or not it's possible to achieve C2 as a self-learner. My impression is that most people who take C2 have been (or are) in an immersion environment: they live in a country where the language is spoken or study philology/teaching at a university. Those who teach themselves to C2 level are extremely rare. (If you take 1-2 Skype lessons a week, you basically teach yourself.) It's much harder to do it alone, and it's almost impossible for someone who is not really interested in languages.
My point is: if you want to reach C2 alone in any time frame, you have to be an experienced, disciplined and hard-working learner. If you want to pass a C2 exam, you also have to do a lot of research. Asking questions on forums is helpful, but it's just the beginning. In a lot of cases this whole thing is not even serious. I think that's what some members want to emphasise. If you're serious about an exam, you familiarise yourself with its structure and ask focused questions about specific things. People seem to be toying with the idea, I wonder how many of them actually sit the exam.
I was happy that zenmonkey pointed to the elephant in the room. It might seem unimportant, but I think it's one of the most basic things. This is not a goal that is achieved as a hobby for most people. You have to be serious about it, you have to put a lot of work into it, and there are no short-cuts. You have to appreciate the help that you get and you have to think about your own takeaway, you have to reflect on things. You need every piece of information, and you need them processed through your own filter. Liking the idea or wanting a certificate that decorates a CV is not enough. You have to be serious about it, you have to be active. C2 knowledge for me is equivalent with a university degree. Cramming data, doing research, making experiments, drawing conclusions, putting them into practice. It requires an academic mindset.
Le Baron wrote:These things help no-one. They should be prefaced with:Step one: Give up most other things in your life, because you'll be largely spending it on language learning, day-in, day-out. And depending on how good, organised. focused and motivated you are, this might be a grind until you crash.
BeaP wrote:zenmonkey wrote:OP posted their question and hasn't come back.
I've noticed that this happens quite often. I wonder why. Nowadays I'm hesitant to reply, but I usually do it because these threads can be useful for others as well. But sometimes I feel as if we were school kids getting assignments that no-one is really interested in. Maybe they're waiting for an e-mail notification that never comes?