to" before "have" is dropped

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to" before "have" is dropped

Postby Rusden » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:33 pm

Please listen to a video clip. The mother in the clip is saying in the way that "to" before "have" is dropped. At least, I hear in such a way. is it true? The subtititles are "I am very lucky to have". Here is the link https://youtu.be/1vVzJ3a87pY?t=34 . Thank you very much.
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Re: to" before "have" is dropped

Postby jeff_lindqvist » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:02 pm

Rusden wrote:Please listen to a video clip. The mother in the clip is saying in the way that "to" before "have" is dropped. At least, I hear in such a way. is it true? The subtititles are "I am very lucky to have". Here is the link https://youtu.be/1vVzJ3a87pY?t=34 . Thank you very much.


I can hear it perfectly. Are you saying that you hear it as "I am very lucky have"?
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Re: to" before "have" is dropped

Postby Dragon27 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:43 pm

No, it's not dropped, it's there: /tə/. Prepositions are normally reduced (like many other auxiliary words), so you have to listen more attentively, if you can't hear it (try 0.5 or 0.25 speed). Since the preposition is reduced it's almost as if she's saying "t'have". But it's clearly there, you should be able to hear it easily, once you figure out where it actually is in the sound stream.
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Re: to" before "have" is dropped

Postby DaveAgain » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:52 pm

I hear the "to have".
I'm not sure that "I'm" isn't "um" though. :-)
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Re: to" before "have" is dropped

Postby Rusden » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:25 pm

jeff_lindqvist wrote:
Rusden wrote:Please listen to a video clip. The mother in the clip is saying in the way that "to" before "have" is dropped. At least, I hear in such a way. is it true? The subtititles are "I am very lucky to have". Here is the link https://youtu.be/1vVzJ3a87pY?t=34 . Thank you very much.


I can hear it perfectly. Are you saying that you hear it as "I am very lucky have"?


yes. Thank you. Now I've managed to catch "to".
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Re: to" before "have" is dropped

Postby Doitsujin » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:42 pm

@Rusden

In ESL books, this phenomenon is often referred to as "weak forms."
You might find the following British Council website with weak form exercises helpful.
Perfect Pronunciation - Weak Forms
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Re: to" before "have" is dropped

Postby Le Baron » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:28 pm

OP, are you specifically aiming for a 'posh' accent? I notice you report yourself as learning 'British language'. You know that could also be, among other things, Welsh?
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Re: to" before "have" is dropped

Postby Rusden » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:54 am

Le Baron wrote:OP, are you specifically aiming for a 'posh' accent? I notice you report yourself as learning 'British language'. You know that could also be, among other things, Welsh?


I need just to understand the speaker whatever accent he/she speaks. Thank you.
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