Has Benny Lewis discovered the new Spanish verb "recordarse"

[Kraut]

Introducing reflexive verbs he writes:

https://www.fluentin3months.com/reflexi ... s-spanish/

To Be Reflexive or Not to Be Reflexive?

Some Spanish verbs have interchangeable reflexive and non-reflexive forms. They carry the same meaning.

Examples:

Yo recuerdo esto – “I remember that.”
Yo me recuerdo esto – “I remember that.”

These are rare, but don’t be surprised if you come across one during future expeditions.
There Are Many Spanish Reflexive Verbs

And indeed:

https://www.storyboardthat.com/fr/storyboards/6cada9ef/verbos-reflexivos

"Me recuerdo esto de William Shakespeare, cuando Romeo murió. "

Brilliant and innovative!

[CarlyD]

Even the dictionary doesn't seem to back him up on that one, unless it's in the big huge every-word-never-used book that I can't even lift.

I've never looked at any of his Spanish stuff, but looking at your link I was bothered by two things:

Way too much use of "yo." I get it in a conjugation chart, but on every sentence? Do they still call that "yo-ism"? Bad habit to get into.

His examples and charts seem to be covering both Latin American and Spain, which can be really confusing. Most people I know seem to go one way or the other--do people really learn both at the same time?

I wonder if he has stuff like that in his Hacking Spanish book.

[白田龍]

The "Diccionario Panhispánico de Dudas" states that pronominal form is not recomended, but it attests its usage: "Estos usos, normales en el español medieval y clásico, han quedado relegados al habla coloquial o popular de algunas zonas, tanto de España como de América (en algunos países como Venezuela o Chile, son usos frecuentes en el habla informal)."

https://www.rae.es/dpd/recordar

[PfifltriggPi]

If I remember correctly, my, adamantly non-native, Spanish teacher taught me that both were acceptable, but that using it without the pronoun was more common. I assumed this was just because it is faster and easier to say as I was unaware that there was any more to it.

For some reason, I seem to have a vague recollection that I use the pronoun with "no" and do not use the pronoun in the affirmative, but that is probably just an error on my part : the only authority I could have in regards to Spanish would be how to sound incredibly French while speaking it.

[SCMT]

Brilliant and innovative!

Yeah, I don''t understand the issue.

I invent new Spanish words in almost every conversation I have in the language

[Cainntear]

I can't remember what it was now, but there was a terrible bit of translationese in unit one or two. It stuck out like a sore thumb.

[chove]

i can never rememeber which of recordarse and acordarse actually exists.

[El Forastero]

This is a Benny's mistake, I'm afraid.

In spanish there are two verbs:

Acordarse DE (reflexive, and with the collocation with "de") : No me acordé de hacer la reserva (de hotel, restaurante)
Recordar (Non reflexive, no prepositional collocation is needed) : No recordé hacer la reserva.

Even though both sentences expresse the same idea, the first one is by far more common. Indeed, it's more common saying "Me olvidé de hacer la reserva" que "No recordé...

By the way, a similar case happens with FORGOT: Olvidé llamarte / Me olvidé de llamarte. The prepositional collocation is the key
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But, there are some verbs when you can add the reflexive pronoun to express intentionality, willingness, disposition:

- Yo como una hamburguesa: It sounds like a description of physiological action, there is no connection with emotions.
- Yo me como una hamburguesa: It expresses willingness, preferences.

[Querneus]

By the way, a similar case happens with FORGOT: Olvidé llamarte / Me olvidé de llamarte. The prepositional collocation is the key

I use those two, but for me at least, they're both on the formal side of things a bit. At the informal layer I tend to use the other construction of the verb more often, the impersonal one (Se me olvidó llamarte).