Learning English this way?

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Learning English this way?

Postby Gergo444 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:43 am

Learn English 100% English.
With the complete exclusion of the mother tongue.

I would like to subscribe to such an online course, but I don’t know how effective it will be. The bottom line is that she teaches 100% English and promises a C1 level.

But I would add similar monolingual methods, such as Rosetta Stone, Effortless English.

Has anyone learned English like this?
That he didn't call his mother tongue for help.

I hope you understand. Thanks!
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Re: Learning English this way?

Postby Gordafarin2 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:08 am

Loads of people take ESL/ESOL/EFL courses in English-speaking countries in this way. The class members all have different native languages, so English is the only shared language in which to explain things.
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Re: Learning English this way?

Postby tangleweeds » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:40 am

Gergo444 wrote:I would like to subscribe to such an online course, but I don’t know how effective it will be. The bottom line is that she <snip, not relevant> promises a C1 level.
Now this, the guaranteed C1, is the part I'd be skeptical of.

Here are some more relevant questions:
  • How long is the course?
  • Is it through an established institution?
  • With what credentials?
  • Does she use textbook we might know of?
  • How much does it cost?

It takes a very long time, and lots of study, to reach C1 in any language.

The Japanese textbook I study from is used in Japan to teach mixed groups of foreigners. There is one textbook that's all in Japanese, then another that's in the student's native language to give translations, vocabulary, and grammar explanations. So while the classes take place in Japanese, the student has some way to figure out what is going on.
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Re: Learning English this way?

Postby Gergo444 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:27 pm

tangleweeds wrote:
Gergo444 wrote:I would like to subscribe to such an online course, but I don’t know how effective it will be. The bottom line is that she <snip, not relevant> promises a C1 level.
Now this, the guaranteed C1, is the part I'd be skeptical of.

Here are some more relevant questions:
  • How long is the course?
  • Is it through an established institution?
  • With what credentials?
  • Does she use textbook we might know of?
  • How much does it cost?

It takes a very long time, and lots of study, to reach C1 in any language.

The Japanese textbook I study from is used in Japan to teach mixed groups of foreigners. There is one textbook that's all in Japanese, then another that's in the student's native language to give translations, vocabulary, and grammar explanations. So while the classes take place in Japanese, the student has some way to figure out what is going on.


The course is conducted entirely online, with pre-prepared materials. Hungarians created these courses.

The course can be completed in 1 year. It mainly consists of videos.
It develops all skills.
One level is 3 months, there are 4 levels.
But it’s only up to level B2, I said wrong because I asked.
The C1 level material will only be ready next year, it would be +3 months.

The total price of the course (currently available 4 levels) is $ 260.
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Re: Learning English this way?

Postby dgc1970 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:28 am

Gergo444 wrote:
tangleweeds wrote:
Gergo444 wrote:I would like to subscribe to such an online course, but I don’t know how effective it will be. The bottom line is that she <snip, not relevant> promises a C1 level.
Now this, the guaranteed C1, is the part I'd be skeptical of.

Here are some more relevant questions:
  • How long is the course?
  • Is it through an established institution?
  • With what credentials?
  • Does she use textbook we might know of?
  • How much does it cost?

It takes a very long time, and lots of study, to reach C1 in any language.

The Japanese textbook I study from is used in Japan to teach mixed groups of foreigners. There is one textbook that's all in Japanese, then another that's in the student's native language to give translations, vocabulary, and grammar explanations. So while the classes take place in Japanese, the student has some way to figure out what is going on.


The course is conducted entirely online, with pre-prepared materials. Hungarians created these courses.

The course can be completed in 1 year. It mainly consists of videos.
It develops all skills.
One level is 3 months, there are 4 levels.
But it’s only up to level B2, I said wrong because I asked.
The C1 level material will only be ready next year, it would be +3 months.

The total price of the course (currently available 4 levels) is $ 260.


Are you looking for a course or are you advertising a course that already exists?
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Re: Learning English this way?

Postby Gergo444 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:19 am

dgc1970 wrote:
Gergo444 wrote:
tangleweeds wrote:
Gergo444 wrote:I would like to subscribe to such an online course, but I don’t know how effective it will be. The bottom line is that she <snip, not relevant> promises a C1 level.
Now this, the guaranteed C1, is the part I'd be skeptical of.

Here are some more relevant questions:
  • How long is the course?
  • Is it through an established institution?
  • With what credentials?
  • Does she use textbook we might know of?
  • How much does it cost?

It takes a very long time, and lots of study, to reach C1 in any language.

The Japanese textbook I study from is used in Japan to teach mixed groups of foreigners. There is one textbook that's all in Japanese, then another that's in the student's native language to give translations, vocabulary, and grammar explanations. So while the classes take place in Japanese, the student has some way to figure out what is going on.


The course is conducted entirely online, with pre-prepared materials. Hungarians created these courses.

The course can be completed in 1 year. It mainly consists of videos.
It develops all skills.
One level is 3 months, there are 4 levels.
But it’s only up to level B2, I said wrong because I asked.
The C1 level material will only be ready next year, it would be +3 months.

The total price of the course (currently available 4 levels) is $ 260.


Are you looking for a course or are you advertising a course that already exists?



I'm not advertising.
This is an existing course I would like to subscribe to.

Anyway, what courses can you offer that are worth the money?
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Re: Learning English this way?

Postby Gordafarin2 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:27 pm

Going from 0 to B2 seems unlikely within a year. Maybe if you're studying full-time, or with a tutor who can tailor the learning to your specific needs. Not from watching some prerecorded videos.

What makes me most suspicious about the class is the idea that each level A1, A2, B1, B2 takes the same length of time. It's a logical way to structure a course, into units of equal lengths, and it's good marketing, but the CEFR levels don't really work that way, IME... Reaching B2 from B1 takes a lot more work than reaching A1 from nothing.
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