Re: Language chunks to ease language activation
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:03 am
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We talk languages
http://forum.language-learners.org/
http://forum.language-learners.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1153
The author of Polish for Dummies, Daria Gabryanczyk, recommends learning phrases of Polish, rather than words.reineke wrote:neofight78 wrote:
I've encountered the effects of ignoring Russian grammar and the results are more often than not awful. A purely lexical approach without grammar or vocabulary study doesn't work in all situations for all people.
The lexical approach is about studying "grammaticalized lexis" i.e. it does away with the dichotomy of grammar and vocabulary as separate study subjects.
Anyone actively studying lexical chunks cannot possibly be ignoring vocabulary. While grammar plays second fiddle, it is hardly ignored. Paying attention to lexical chunks could prove especially useful while studying a highly inflected language like Russian. Nobody's forcing students, teachers or self-learners to adopt this approach. What's more, the lexical approach is apparently largely ignored:
"A quick glance at any commercially available EFL textbook reveals that a traditional grammar syllabus, the main object of Lewis's attack, is still alive and kicking, albeit more cleverly disguised."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... revolution
So, what’s the best approach when it comes to learning Polish? Simply relax, take things easy, don’t worry if you can’t always get the endings right, don’t look too much ahead but just let yourself gradually dive into Polish, follow simple tips your teacher gives you during your classes, take every opportunity to speak Polish and listen to the language and keep repeating full phrases. In the case of the Polish language, learning isolated words is not a good idea, as you might not know how to put them together. Therefore, especially at the beginning, you should always focus on memorising full phrases as this is the best way to learn Polish. And you will soon notice that the more Polish phrases you already know the easier it becomes for you to take in more and more and in no time you will realise it’s actually not that difficult.
jeffers wrote:This thread made me wonder if it would be feasible to write a program which finds chunks in texts.
lusan wrote:I believe, as soon research showed, that we remember best no more than 7 items at the time. Very long sentences fail in that respect.
tommus wrote:If there is interest, I will process other corpus material in other languages into 2-word and 3-word chunks. What I need is a link to plain text material. It should include at least 200,000 words, and preferably 1 million words or more, in Latin script.