what is differences have and possess?
should I choose one of them as relative to and when?
Have vs possess
-
Online
- White Belt
- Posts: 16
- Joined: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:30 pm
- Languages: Turkish(N), English(beginner)
Have vs possess
0 x
- luke
- Brown Belt
- Posts: 1300
- Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:09 pm
- Languages: English (N). Spanish (advancing), Esperanto (B1), French (rusting)
- Language Log: https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 15&t=16948
- x 3831
Re: Have vs possess
"Possess" is very formal.
In talking about cars, you would use "have", unless maybe you're talking to an attorney about a legal matter.
"Possess" has other meanings though, such as, "what sort of demon possesses that child"? But that might be limited to a specific genre of movie like, "The Exorcist".
In talking about cars, you would use "have", unless maybe you're talking to an attorney about a legal matter.
"Possess" has other meanings though, such as, "what sort of demon possesses that child"? But that might be limited to a specific genre of movie like, "The Exorcist".
3 x
: Globalismo - Agustín Laje
: iTalki convos
: 8000 pages - Reading
: FSI Anki
: Anki 4992 Palabras frequentes
: iTalki convos
: 8000 pages - Reading
: FSI Anki
: Anki 4992 Palabras frequentes
- tastyonions
- Black Belt - 1st Dan
- Posts: 1721
- Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:39 pm
- Location: Dallas, TX
- Languages: EN (N), FR, ES, DE, IT, PT, NL, EL
- x 4476
Re: Have vs possess
luke wrote:"Possess" has other meanings though, such as, "what sort of demon possesses that child"? But that might be limited to a specific genre of movie like, "The Exorcist".
“What possessed you/him/her to say/do that?” is a pretty common idiom in American English, used when someone has done or said something foolish or uncharacteristic of their usual behavior. I assume it derives from the more specific “demonic” sense.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... you%2Fthem
4 x
- luke
- Brown Belt
- Posts: 1300
- Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:09 pm
- Languages: English (N). Spanish (advancing), Esperanto (B1), French (rusting)
- Language Log: https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 15&t=16948
- x 3831
Re: Have vs possess
tastyonions wrote:luke wrote:"Possess" has other meanings though, such as, "what sort of demon possesses that child"? But that might be limited to a specific genre of movie like, "The Exorcist".
“What possessed you/him/her to say/do that?” is a pretty common idiom in American English, used when someone has done or said something foolish or uncharacteristic of their usual behavior. I assume it derives from the more specific “demonic” sense.
That's a good point. A lot of common words have many senses.
One thing I've found helpful in situations like this (but for Spanish) is to do a google search. In this case:
https://thisvsthat.io/own-vs-possess
This sort of search is not definitive, but generally puts me on track for understanding the differences.
2 x
: Globalismo - Agustín Laje
: iTalki convos
: 8000 pages - Reading
: FSI Anki
: Anki 4992 Palabras frequentes
: iTalki convos
: 8000 pages - Reading
: FSI Anki
: Anki 4992 Palabras frequentes
- Le Baron
- Black Belt - 4th Dan
- Posts: 4236
- Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:14 pm
- Languages: English (N), Ones I speak : French, Dutch, German. Ones I'm trying to speak : Spanish, Swahili.
- x 11075
Re: Have vs possess
These words tend to go around in a circle. I could say 'possess' means to own (and it does) and claim lineage to Latin possideo, but then there's also habeo and it means the same! With little distinction beween 'owning' and 'having'.
Skeats's old etymological dictionary claims it is derived from: Lat. port- or porti-, towards, a conjectural form of the prefix; and sedere, to sit, remain, continue ; as if the sense were ‘to remain near,’ hence to have in ion.... So perhaps originally the idea of having something, but actually close to hand. Such as 'possessing' a firearm really meaning that you have it on you or at least close to hand.
I think it's just easier to treat them as synonyms, but only in terms of 'ownership'. After all you wouldn't say e.g. 'I possess a headache' instead of 'I have a headache'.
Skeats's old etymological dictionary claims it is derived from: Lat. port- or porti-, towards, a conjectural form of the prefix; and sedere, to sit, remain, continue ; as if the sense were ‘to remain near,’ hence to have in ion.... So perhaps originally the idea of having something, but actually close to hand. Such as 'possessing' a firearm really meaning that you have it on you or at least close to hand.
I think it's just easier to treat them as synonyms, but only in terms of 'ownership'. After all you wouldn't say e.g. 'I possess a headache' instead of 'I have a headache'.
5 x
To have talked much and read much is of more value in learning to speak and write well than to have parsed and analysed half a library.
- luke
- Brown Belt
- Posts: 1300
- Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:09 pm
- Languages: English (N). Spanish (advancing), Esperanto (B1), French (rusting)
- Language Log: https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 15&t=16948
- x 3831
Re: Have vs possess
Le Baron wrote:These words tend to go around in a circle. I could say 'possess' means to own (and it does) and claim lineage to Latin possideo, but then there's also habeo and it means the same! With little distinction beween 'owning' and 'having'.
Skeats's old etymological dictionary claims it is derived from: Lat. port- or porti-, towards, a conjectural form of the prefix; and sedere, to sit, remain, continue ; as if the sense were ‘to remain near,’ hence to have in ion.... So perhaps originally the idea of having something, but actually close to hand. Such as 'possessing' a firearm really meaning that you have it on you or at least close to hand.
I think it's just easier to treat them as synonyms, but only in terms of 'ownership'. After all you wouldn't say e.g. 'I possess a headache' instead of 'I have a headache'.
That's all true, and one would never use "possess" as an auxilliary verb either, e.g., "
3 x
: Globalismo - Agustín Laje
: iTalki convos
: 8000 pages - Reading
: FSI Anki
: Anki 4992 Palabras frequentes
: iTalki convos
: 8000 pages - Reading
: FSI Anki
: Anki 4992 Palabras frequentes
-
- Posts: 2
- Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:01 pm
- Languages: English
- x 1
Re: Have vs possess
“Have” is more commonly used in everyday English, while “possess” sounds more formal or literary. Use “have” in most situations, especially in casual conversation. You might choose “possess” for emphasis or in legal contexts.
1 x
Return to “Practical Questions and Advice”
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Eveee and 2 guests