Aloyse's study log (ZH, JP, maybe EN, ES, AR ?)

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Re: Aloyse's study log (ZH, JP,maybe EN, ES, AR ?)

Postby Aloyse » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:15 am

I'm speaking Chinese this week :D
My Chinese is still rubbish though :oops:
And I still haven't mastered the trick of forcing myself to answer 哪里哪里你的法语才好 to undeserved praise :?

Edit: today's Chinese class was somewhat harder. But I spoke a little more and perhaps a little better.
But why is this class causing anxiety?
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Re: Aloyse's study log (ZH, JP,maybe EN, ES, AR ?)

Postby Aloyse » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:05 pm

15 hours of Chinese class in 1 week:

the small group class ended up being just me and the teacher.
So in a sense I got private lessons for the same price as group classes.
The teacher gave me a choice of topics from the list prepared for the group classes (all very current topics about Chinese society).
Each session started with smalltalk before diving into the topic of the day.
The handouts were a mixture of "somewhat too easy" and "somewhat too difficult" texts - apparently there is a lack of interesting material (i.e. about current topics) for intermediate level learners.
The videos were difficult to follow for me - full speed Chinese speech... my listening is still not good enough.

Regarding my spoken Chinese, I'm ashamed to say that I still make beginner mistakes like using 还是 instead of 或者 :oops:
But on the other hand I used 把 without even thinking about it.
I mostly spoke very slowly as I was trying to remember the appropriate vocabulary but in some rare instances my speech was more or less fluid when speaking about my interests.

At the beginning of the week I dreaded going to class (3 hours! one on one!) but thankfully the wall clock was behind my back and the class contents was interesting enough that it wasn't all that hard to keep going... I definitely needed some cafeine beforehand though.

In summary I am feeling satisfied and encouraged to take more classes and/or restart studying Chinese by myself seriously.
I'll definitely take these intensive classes again when available (i.e. during school holidays)
and I am considering also taking a regular long term class, although the teacher warned me that available classes might be somewhat easy for me... there's always private classes but that's pricey.

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Interesting vocabulary:
码农 (code farmer :mrgreen: ) ~= 程序员 (programmer, developer)
996 is a verb.

todo: make smalltalk with myself about the random events in my life.
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Re: Aloyse's study log (ZH, JP,maybe EN, ES, AR ?)

Postby overscore » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:56 pm

Aloyse wrote:And I still haven't mastered the trick of forcing myself to answer 哪里哪里你的法语才好 to undeserved praise :?


I was going to protest at that sentence (哪里哪里你的法语才好), but at the very least if it means there's less cases of Paris syndrome coming from China than japan and korea, that will have served its purpose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
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Re: Aloyse's study log (ZH, JP, maybe EN, ES, AR ?)

Postby Aloyse » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:31 am

overscore wrote:I was going to protest at that sentence (哪里哪里你的法语才好)

I'm not quite following. Were you going to object on grammatical, cultural, or factual grounds?
Isn't it polite in Chinese culture to respond to compliments with a vigorous denial/display of 谦虚, and if possible return to sender?
As I am now living in a smaller provincial town, most of the non-French-born Chinese speakers I meet are already more or less fluent in French... and even if their French is still only barely intelligible, I don't (or rather, shouldn't) feel particularly hypocritical in giving false praise in return for false praise :)
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Re: Aloyse's study log (ZH, JP, maybe EN, ES, AR ?)

Postby overscore » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:57 pm

Aloyse wrote:
overscore wrote:I was going to protest at that sentence (哪里哪里你的法语才好)

I'm not quite following. Were you going to object on grammatical, cultural, or factual grounds?
Isn't it polite in Chinese culture to respond to compliments with a vigorous denial/display of 谦虚, and if possible return to sender?
As I am now living in a smaller provincial town, most of the non-French-born Chinese speakers I meet are already more or less fluent in French... and even if their French is still only barely intelligible, I don't (or rather, shouldn't) feel particularly hypocritical in giving false praise in return for false praise :)



Ah I completely missed the mark of what this means :D I'm sorry.
I asked my chinese girlfriend and she cleared it up for me.
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